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[-] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 225 points 3 months ago

It boggles my mind that this fake electors scheme didn't land Trump in jail immediately. There was a much more coordinated effort behind the scenes to keep him in power than anybody realized at the time.

[-] HottieAutie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 155 points 3 months ago

I looked into the things that were done to try to keep Trump in office. They seriously tried to conduct a coup. No doubt. It's not ambiguous. It wasn't a wacky protest that Trump kind of got riled up and it went too far. Trump wasn't the only one involved. They didn't try to take advantage of a loophole. They straight up tried to overturn the election using corruption, intimidation, coercion, and violence. It didn't fail because it was a bad attempt. It was stopped by many people that had integrity. We were this close 🤏 to losing what we have of democracy. The fact that Trump et al. isn't in jail or worse is a sign of how infected our system is.

Someone please prove me wrong. I want to be wrong, but I can't convince myself that I am.

[-] invertedspear@lemm.ee 29 points 3 months ago

The thing that keeps trump out of jail is the plausible deniability that he was involved or at fault. There’s probably enough evidence against him, but not enough that even corrupt judges can’t look the other way. And he can just appeal to he gets a judge corrupt enough. So investigators have to handle this like any other criminal organization by starting at the little guys and making deals with them to turn on the person above them, then get them to turn in the people pulling their strings, and on and on until you can get enough people willing to testify in court that trump was in fact part of it. I say part because I don’t credit him to be smart enough to be at the top of this. He’s somebody’s useful idiot.

[-] Plopp@lemmy.world 13 points 3 months ago

The proof against is probably just Trump saying "wrong."

[-] barsquid@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago

"Excuse me, excuse me. Fake news. And by the way that is a nasty question."

[-] Mostly_Gristle@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago

The Congressional Dish podcast did a pretty good episode about it a while back. I think it was Episode 266: Contriving January 6th.

[-] HottieAutie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 months ago

Episode 266: Contriving January 6th

I'm gonna check it out. Thanks!

[-] EmpathicVagrant@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago

After the push comes the fire

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