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[-] Birbatron@lemmy.ml 68 points 1 year ago

As someone who just joined and picked .ml because it seemed generally leftist

What the fuck?

[-] barsquid@lemmy.world 62 points 1 year ago

It is generally leftist. Unfortunately you are probably imagining leftist economics but they want "leftist" authoritarianism. They despise capitalism. They love state capitalism. They will excuse any atrocities and human rights violations that occur as long as the country is extremely authoritarian and pretending to be economically left.

They are historical revisionists as well. Admins are extremely fragile. They will ban you from every community for writing historically accurate facts. If you find this screenshot appalling you should preemptively switch to a different instance before they catch you doing wrongthink and ban you.

Source: I had a lemmy.ml account for the same reasons as you.

[-] Vilian@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 year ago

they will ban you for writing "cunt" lol

[-] Beaver@lemmy.ca 35 points 1 year ago

It’s easy to make a new account.

[-] Birbatron@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago

I've really tried, but discuss.tchncs.de ghosted me, world kinda sucks, and lemm.ee is incredibly slow and semi broken for me, idk what else to use, I'm worried about. Ca because I'm in the old world so far away

[-] Five@slrpnk.net 38 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Other leftist instances you might consider:

  • Beehaw.org
  • Lemmy.Blahaj.Zone
  • Lemmy.DBZer0.com
  • Midwest.social (USA)
  • Feddit.uk (United Kingdom)
  • Aggregatet.org (Sweden)
  • Feddit.org (Germany)
  • JLai.Lu (France)
  • Slrpnk.net
[-] Birbatron@lemmy.ml 30 points 1 year ago

Slrpnk.net seems perfect, I'll make an account on there as soon as I can

[-] Five@slrpnk.net 15 points 1 year ago
[-] Birbatron@slrpnk.net 36 points 1 year ago
[-] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 8 points 1 year ago

Welcome home! (Well its my second home, but I super love the vibes here and more and more it might become my true home)

[-] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 5 points 1 year ago

🎉🥳🎊🍾

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 22 points 1 year ago

Midwest.social bans landlords on sight ❤️

[-] Beaver@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 year ago

Nice so I can bring up that every family should be limited to one home until housing is fixed.

[-] Aqarius@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

Didn't beehaw cut themselves off from, uh, everyone?

[-] Five@slrpnk.net 16 points 1 year ago

From LW, yeah. They still federate with us though. And honestly, I get it.

[-] kofe@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

Oooo Midwest social is left leaning??? This makes my rust belt ass happy

[-] Blaze@sopuli.xyz 19 points 1 year ago

It's Lemmy, most of the instances are left leaning, the question is usually how far left they go.

[-] barsquid@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

It is basically all left, the question is: are they sane left or historical revisionist "left" denying any wrongdoing from the state capitalist nations they worship?

[-] Blaze@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 year ago
[-] stinerman@midwest.social 7 points 1 year ago

Yeah the admin is from Ohio. He's definitely a leftist but that doesn't really mean much on the day to day running of the instance.

[-] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 6 points 1 year ago

Feddit.UK isn't necessarily leftist, just "don't be a jerk"

[-] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 9 points 1 year ago

Man. Says everything you need to know about non-leftwinf politics, doesn't it?

[-] Beaver@lemmy.ca 18 points 1 year ago

Blahaj.zone would be a good fit for you as it is hosted in Finland and ran by trans folks

[-] Birbatron@lemmy.ml 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Censored in the country I'm currently in :(

I'm only here temporarily though, once I'm back home in Egypt I'll be able to join, but then again I'm here pretty often, I'd have to keep the .ml account for use when I'm here

[-] Beaver@lemmy.ca 16 points 1 year ago

I’m surprised Lemmy servers are being censored already. How about sopuli.xyz?

[-] poVoq@slrpnk.net 25 points 1 year ago

Funnily enough Lemmy.ml is censored in China.

[-] Birbatron@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 year ago

That seems perfect, I'll be using that and slrpnk.net and seeing which one fits me more I guess

[-] Beaver@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 year ago

It’s also hosted in Finland.

[-] poVoq@slrpnk.net 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

No, we (slrpnk.net) are hosted in Portugal. But I guess you meant sopuli.xyz ?

[-] Beaver@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Nice so you’re being hosted in Portugal. I always like seeing you folks in vegantheoryclub ;)

Yeah I meant Sopuli.xyz.

[-] WolfLink@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago

sh.itjust.works is easy to make an account on and is sane.

[-] Blaze@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 year ago

lemm.ee is incredibly slow and semi broken for me

Strange, I'm in Europe too and it works quite well

[-] Blisterexe@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 year ago

Lemmy.zip is nice

[-] Socsa@sh.itjust.works 35 points 1 year ago

I made the same mistake. They are the stupid kind of leftists

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[-] Wxnzxn@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 year ago

Yeah, I am too attached to my account because it's several years old and was made when there were next to no instances running. But I can only shake my head at the amount of Marxist-Leninist nonsense that is at times pushed there, that unironically elevates what was a development of "Marxism" out of the material conditions of the Eastern Bloc as an imperialist sphere bent on market expansion and accumulation of national capital, into a religion-like orthodoxy.

No, ideology that is nominally Marxist, and having an educated caste of decision-makers highly trained in your interpretation of it at the top won't prevent capitalist dynamics and bring about communism, only the material base and changing it will, and your ideology will follow what your material base demands. And that had been expansion of national capital for the Eastern sphere since the revolution failed to link up with any industrialised nations in the 1920s. The elevation of Marxism into a basically teleological ideology, claiming that with subservience to the interests of national capital, there will be communism at the end (a promise broken over and over again), is completely understandable by looking at the Soviet and Chinese spheres of influence from a Marxist perspective.

And even the structures put into place by Lenin were explicitly designed as for his own time and the conditions within the Russian Empire, not as an infallible orthodoxy, and things like Democratic Centralism explicitly contained open and free discussion before unity of action, which was just completely pushed away. Urgh, it's sad to me, because I think a new, invigorated and organised communist movement is needed more than ever, but by redirecting it to the national interest of states like China (and even Russia, which isn't even nominally communist, and just opposes western imperialism to impose its own imperialism - like choosing Germany over France in WWI, the exact shit Lenin fought against) instead of the international proletariat, just weakens it overall.

[-] Socsa@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago

I mean there literally is one. European style social democracy and democratic socialism has made way more progress towards socialist ideals than anything inherited from the Leninist tradition. It's just that the revolutionary fan service isn't as good so the Orthodox MLs don't like it very much.

[-] jerkface@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Technology and social advances have increased the wealth and income disparity that the working class will tolerate without destroying the system.

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