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[-] Birbatron@lemmy.ml 61 points 4 months ago

As someone who just joined and picked .ml because it seemed generally leftist

What the fuck?

[-] barsquid@lemmy.world 59 points 4 months ago

It is generally leftist. Unfortunately you are probably imagining leftist economics but they want "leftist" authoritarianism. They despise capitalism. They love state capitalism. They will excuse any atrocities and human rights violations that occur as long as the country is extremely authoritarian and pretending to be economically left.

They are historical revisionists as well. Admins are extremely fragile. They will ban you from every community for writing historically accurate facts. If you find this screenshot appalling you should preemptively switch to a different instance before they catch you doing wrongthink and ban you.

Source: I had a lemmy.ml account for the same reasons as you.

[-] Vilian@lemmy.ca 5 points 4 months ago

they will ban you for writing "cunt" lol

[-] Socsa@sh.itjust.works 35 points 4 months ago

I made the same mistake. They are the stupid kind of leftists

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[-] Beaver@lemmy.ca 35 points 4 months ago

It’s easy to make a new account.

[-] Birbatron@lemmy.ml 8 points 4 months ago

I've really tried, but discuss.tchncs.de ghosted me, world kinda sucks, and lemm.ee is incredibly slow and semi broken for me, idk what else to use, I'm worried about. Ca because I'm in the old world so far away

[-] Five@slrpnk.net 38 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Other leftist instances you might consider:

  • Beehaw.org
  • Lemmy.Blahaj.Zone
  • Lemmy.DBZer0.com
  • Midwest.social (USA)
  • Feddit.uk (United Kingdom)
  • Aggregatet.org (Sweden)
  • Feddit.org (Germany)
  • JLai.Lu (France)
  • Slrpnk.net
[-] Birbatron@lemmy.ml 29 points 4 months ago

Slrpnk.net seems perfect, I'll make an account on there as soon as I can

[-] Five@slrpnk.net 15 points 4 months ago
[-] Birbatron@slrpnk.net 36 points 4 months ago
[-] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 8 points 4 months ago

Welcome home! (Well its my second home, but I super love the vibes here and more and more it might become my true home)

[-] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 5 points 4 months ago

🎉🥳🎊🍾

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 22 points 4 months ago

Midwest.social bans landlords on sight ❤️

[-] Beaver@lemmy.ca 7 points 4 months ago

Nice so I can bring up that every family should be limited to one home until housing is fixed.

[-] Aqarius@lemmy.world 18 points 4 months ago

Didn't beehaw cut themselves off from, uh, everyone?

[-] Five@slrpnk.net 16 points 4 months ago

From LW, yeah. They still federate with us though. And honestly, I get it.

[-] kofe@lemmy.world 12 points 4 months ago

Oooo Midwest social is left leaning??? This makes my rust belt ass happy

[-] Blaze@sopuli.xyz 19 points 4 months ago

It's Lemmy, most of the instances are left leaning, the question is usually how far left they go.

[-] barsquid@lemmy.world 13 points 4 months ago

It is basically all left, the question is: are they sane left or historical revisionist "left" denying any wrongdoing from the state capitalist nations they worship?

[-] Blaze@sopuli.xyz 5 points 4 months ago
[-] stinerman@midwest.social 7 points 4 months ago

Yeah the admin is from Ohio. He's definitely a leftist but that doesn't really mean much on the day to day running of the instance.

[-] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 5 points 4 months ago

Feddit.UK isn't necessarily leftist, just "don't be a jerk"

[-] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 9 points 4 months ago

Man. Says everything you need to know about non-leftwinf politics, doesn't it?

[-] Beaver@lemmy.ca 17 points 4 months ago

Blahaj.zone would be a good fit for you as it is hosted in Finland and ran by trans folks

[-] Birbatron@lemmy.ml 21 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Censored in the country I'm currently in :(

I'm only here temporarily though, once I'm back home in Egypt I'll be able to join, but then again I'm here pretty often, I'd have to keep the .ml account for use when I'm here

[-] Beaver@lemmy.ca 15 points 4 months ago

I’m surprised Lemmy servers are being censored already. How about sopuli.xyz?

[-] poVoq@slrpnk.net 24 points 4 months ago

Funnily enough Lemmy.ml is censored in China.

[-] Birbatron@lemmy.ml 12 points 4 months ago

That seems perfect, I'll be using that and slrpnk.net and seeing which one fits me more I guess

[-] Beaver@lemmy.ca 5 points 4 months ago

It’s also hosted in Finland.

[-] poVoq@slrpnk.net 11 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

No, we (slrpnk.net) are hosted in Portugal. But I guess you meant sopuli.xyz ?

[-] Beaver@lemmy.ca 7 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Nice so you’re being hosted in Portugal. I always like seeing you folks in vegantheoryclub ;)

Yeah I meant Sopuli.xyz.

[-] WolfLink@sh.itjust.works 5 points 4 months ago

sh.itjust.works is easy to make an account on and is sane.

[-] Blaze@sopuli.xyz 5 points 4 months ago

lemm.ee is incredibly slow and semi broken for me

Strange, I'm in Europe too and it works quite well

[-] Blisterexe@lemmy.zip 4 points 4 months ago

Lemmy.zip is nice

[-] Yggnar@lemmy.world 16 points 4 months ago

Pretty sure ML stands for Marxist Leninist, doesn't it?

[-] Birbatron@lemmy.ml 13 points 4 months ago

Marxist Leninists aren't usually transphobic

[-] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 14 points 4 months ago

If they are shilling for Russia or China they are.

LGBTQ+ members get killed on the spot over there, and the cops say they deserve it.

[-] goat@sh.itjust.works 9 points 4 months ago

They are when in private, quite actively actually.

[-] SpookyBogMonster@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 months ago

Shout out to Leslie Feinberg. Everyone go read Transgender Warriors.

[-] Snowpix@lemmy.ca 9 points 4 months ago

It stands for Mali (the country the domain is registered to) but I think Marxist-Leninist was a happy coincidence for them.

[-] Wxnzxn@lemmy.ml 10 points 4 months ago

Yeah, I am too attached to my account because it's several years old and was made when there were next to no instances running. But I can only shake my head at the amount of Marxist-Leninist nonsense that is at times pushed there, that unironically elevates what was a development of "Marxism" out of the material conditions of the Eastern Bloc as an imperialist sphere bent on market expansion and accumulation of national capital, into a religion-like orthodoxy.

No, ideology that is nominally Marxist, and having an educated caste of decision-makers highly trained in your interpretation of it at the top won't prevent capitalist dynamics and bring about communism, only the material base and changing it will, and your ideology will follow what your material base demands. And that had been expansion of national capital for the Eastern sphere since the revolution failed to link up with any industrialised nations in the 1920s. The elevation of Marxism into a basically teleological ideology, claiming that with subservience to the interests of national capital, there will be communism at the end (a promise broken over and over again), is completely understandable by looking at the Soviet and Chinese spheres of influence from a Marxist perspective.

And even the structures put into place by Lenin were explicitly designed as for his own time and the conditions within the Russian Empire, not as an infallible orthodoxy, and things like Democratic Centralism explicitly contained open and free discussion before unity of action, which was just completely pushed away. Urgh, it's sad to me, because I think a new, invigorated and organised communist movement is needed more than ever, but by redirecting it to the national interest of states like China (and even Russia, which isn't even nominally communist, and just opposes western imperialism to impose its own imperialism - like choosing Germany over France in WWI, the exact shit Lenin fought against) instead of the international proletariat, just weakens it overall.

[-] Socsa@sh.itjust.works 5 points 4 months ago

I mean there literally is one. European style social democracy and democratic socialism has made way more progress towards socialist ideals than anything inherited from the Leninist tradition. It's just that the revolutionary fan service isn't as good so the Orthodox MLs don't like it very much.

[-] jerkface@lemmy.ca 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Technology and social advances have increased the wealth and income disparity that the working class will tolerate without destroying the system.

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