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Uhh. Hi, woman here...RIP my inbox but I think it's important parents talk to teenagers of all genders about this and consider having them look for toys they can experiment with if they express interest. Just because we don't orgasm from penetration doesn't mean it feels bad lol. Better they have toys available so they're less likely to use something inappropriate.
I agree parents should talk with their kids, I never meant to allude to that. But I disagree that penetration doesn't feel bad, for me it feels painful without lube and with lube it feels not painful but never enjoyable. Vibrators are the only thing that feels good, that much is universal among the women I've talked to.
Well, not that I think it has to be your experience by any means, that's part of the beauty of life - we're all a bit different and into different things. I do quite enjoy penetration without need for lube (I mean, I do need to have natural lube, obviously). I usually get myself there with just hands and might use a dildo when I'm worked up enough. Vibrators are great, no doubt. I don't typically use toys, though, honestly. I did more in my teens when I was ignorant to how my body worked lol. Which is why I wrote the OG comment...I didn't have appropriate toys, and it caused some shame on occasion. I knew it felt good but didn't feel safe talking to my parents about it.
Understandable. I was never into penetration and thought I was weird but after talking to more women and then reading Come As You Are, it clicked that I was actually normal and in the majority (80% are like me). Not that being in the minority is weird, if you read the book you'll find that is actually normal too. I hate masturbation or sex without a vibrator lol. I never felt safe talking to my parents either, they were super religious and invaded my privacy regularly. I was an adult before getting toys, and everything sex related sucked before them.
My understanding is 80% of people with a uterus don't climax from penetration, not that we find it necessarily unenjoyable (which is true for me, too; I do need clitoral stimulation to climax). I've taken courses on women's studies, feminist philosophy, etc. to overcome the problematic religious attitudes my parents had, too - and lots of therapy! I'll see if my library has that book available, though. I'm always interested in learning more.
I'm really sorry you had that experience growing up, though, that's awful. As normal as our experiences felt to us having privacy invaded and all the shame, that much shouldn't be normalized! I'm glad you've found what works for you, and I wish you all the most pleasurable experiences around it throughout the rest of your life ๐
It feels like nothing but rubbing for me? Idk. But I definitely recommend the book. I'm not saying those 80% hate penetration, but it isn't a big part. I know when I talked to my gyno about painful sex, she said use plenty of lube and orgasm before penetration. Very good advice in case anyone needs it.
I'm glad you found relief from the religious oppression. We need less shaming and better sex ed for everyone. Thanks for your wishes, I wish you the same!
Oh gotcha, I totally agree it's not a big part at all! Honestly, I didn't experience an orgasm until well after I became sexually active, and very rarely with a partner since. It's extremely important to me as I'm back "on the market" now and have really struggled in past relationships with it. I enjoy the whole aspect to it, exploring whole bodies, but I would very much like to find a relationship where my partner prioritizes helping me climax and has some patience with me on it.
By chance, did you talk with your gyno about vaginismus? Not sure if I'm spelling that right, but I've had a few friends mention that it's painful, one friend saying she couldn't wear tampons or anything. I could see why orgasming first would help the muscles to relax
Girl same, it took me a couple of guys and years before I had an orgasm. Luckily my current partner is very patient with me and I hope you find someone like that too. I feel like a lot of maybe younger or inexperienced guys just jackhammer a girl and then they're done ugh. Sorry for misunderstanding you earlier, looks like we had much more in common than I thought! Judging by the down votes it looks like I said something offensive, and I just wanted to say sorry about that. This is just my experience.
I think I did ask about that and since she doesn't have trouble inserting the speculum she said I didn't have it. I use menstrual cups with lube just fine, although I do use a cup on the softer side.
Hey, I'm sorry it's taken me so long to respond but you had nothing to apologize for! I appreciated the conversation and had some confusion, but that's why I originally commented to get clarification:) I enjoyed the chat, though, and hope you're doing well!