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[-] Des@hexbear.net 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

part of me thinks this is one of those situations where an armed population would at least dissuade this kind of rampant impunity

try to pull a person out of a car. get a bullet to the dome.

at least the threat this may happen might make the rioters second guess

and since the police seem to be opting out and there's no national guard to speak of and we know how adverse to threats the western right is

like even a loosely cobbled together armed popular front militia would probalbly be enough to keep these shits from burning down buildings full of asylum seekers

yes i know the it's likely the full force of the state would be brought down on the people defending their city and populace but fuck sometimes i think i'd rather go out resisting with everything you got

sorry this shit makes me so mad i don't know what the solution is besides general class war

[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Police aren't hitting the riots but they've already started raiding homes of participants. Most of these shits are going to end up locked up.

Issue is though that the prisons are full so I don't know how hard the courts will go.

[-] GlueBear@hexbear.net 14 points 1 year ago

You guys don't have a national guard for this shit? The US would've rolled police tanks in on the 3rd hour

[-] Dolores@hexbear.net 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

the UK has armed and extremely kitted out police, they just reserve disproportionate responses for people with legitimate grievances lol. US pigs also roll over for rightwing thugs

[-] GlueBear@hexbear.net 8 points 1 year ago

With this much property damage the US would start hanging people's bodies from highway bridges

[-] Hello_Kitty_enjoyer@hexbear.net 15 points 1 year ago

the US literally bombed black towns, you live in fantasyland

[-] bradorsomething@ttrpg.network 11 points 1 year ago

He didn’t say for what side

[-] GlueBear@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago
[-] Clippy@hexbear.net 13 points 1 year ago

he's saying the americans would not roll police tanks to quell the race riots, because the american security forces have bombed black towns. i think he is trying to say the interests of the state would result in the national guard sitting on their hand

[-] GlueBear@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago

I think the American ruling classes' love for property would probably be the compelling force to send tanks in, but good point

[-] iie@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago

they are referencing the 1985 MOVE bombing to make the point that we can't rely on racist police to prevent racist violence

[-] Des@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago

i dunno not from there im assuming the UK doesn't?

[-] Greenleaf@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago

UK has the Territorial Army, which I’m told is like the National Guard or Army Reserve in the US.

[-] SoyViking@hexbear.net 14 points 1 year ago

They have an armed population in the US. The people most likely to be armed over there are the chuds. Guns has been used there in several far-right terrorist attacks and are routinely used to intimidate those targeted by the fascist.

I am not convinced that allowing random people to buy firearms reduces the likelihood of fascist terror. Where fascist thugs has successfully been chased out of towns and neighbours it has been as a result of organising rather than hardware, both broad big tent antifascist organising of the community and the formation of more dedicated antifascist community self-defense groups.

[-] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 13 points 1 year ago

Yep, especially taking Britain as an example - before the war with Nazi Germany, the BUF was driven out by the anti-fascist communities organizing around disrupting their marches.

And the same as today, the fascists of back then always went " :smuglord: these people are taking away our rights to speech" everytime the community fought against them.

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