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submitted 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) by ashinadash@hexbear.net to c/games@hexbear.net

I was watching "...why Skyrim?" by Razbuten on sloptube this aft and it's so weird that it finally took Starfield for people to realise. Like Fallout 76 wasn't enough, only now are negative things people were first saying about Skyrim in 2012 finally bleeding into mainstream consciousness. It's so wild, like wow they ruined the magic system? The game has worse writing than a PS1 era Mega Man X game??? Skyrim is just shitty Game of Thrones?? Welcome to thirteen years ago!!

Bethesda hasn't made a really good game since 2002, but it'll probably be years before that realisation sinks in.

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[-] ashinadash@hexbear.net 15 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Is this the bit where you want me to preface every opinion I say with "IN MY OPINION" or "SUBJECTIVELY SPEAKING" instead of just taking it as red that views are subjective? Also coming out to defend a 40-million selling game by saying you don't care and basically demanding that a discussion not happen ("I dont feel the need to argue", which if u dont then dont) or only happen with specific qualifiers is pretty funny.

I knew you were gonna bug me about "realise", the reason I use that is because, as in the OP, the public opinion seems to be turning quite suddenly, people are realising they don't actually think it's good, lol.

Maybe we're just talking across dialects and crossing wires,

This is basically all nitpicking yeah. People mostly do this when they dislike what someone says, I find. Something that's worthy to note is that I had long considered Skyrim to be a "lost cause", in that everyone enjoys it and I just hate the fucker. So it was quite a surprise to see people suddenly turning around and start beating the game up for the same things every Bethesda game since Oblivion has done. Funny...

[-] Diuretic_Materialism@hexbear.net 7 points 3 months ago

Is this the bit where you want me to preface every opinion I say with "IN MY OPINION" or "SUBJECTIVELY SPEAKING" instead of just taking it as red that views are subjective?

90% of the time when people say "IN MY OPINION" what they're doing is signally that they don't hold the opinion they're about to express so strongly that they'd be willing to get into a heated debate/argument over it. They're basically conceding you permission to disagree.

That's morphed into people expecting that declaration for everything so they don't feel disrespected by disagreement.

[-] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 7 points 3 months ago

Which is super weird cause it only seems to apply in certain circumstances, usually media criticism. If I say "Jack Black was always an annoying asshole." No one smugly tells me I should have instead said "it is in my humble opinion that Jack Black has always been an asshole.' They just make the very easy mental connection. If a statement is either inherently an opinion based on its nature there is no need to preface it, it's a waste of time.

[-] Diuretic_Materialism@hexbear.net 4 points 3 months ago

I think it's more a matter of gaging how popular your take is going to be with those in your immediate surroundings. Everyone here is probably going to agree with you assessment of Jack Black.

[-] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 4 points 3 months ago

Pick a different guy then. It's just an example.

[-] ashinadash@hexbear.net 4 points 3 months ago

Yeah, Idk why people assume they have to have that "permission". Obviously I am hip to the idea people like Skyrim...

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