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The state of US political discourse
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We have a choice between one person publicly calling for a ceasefire and another who says Israel needs to finish the job.
I'm not sure what you want us to do here.
Are you easily fooled by someone saying one thing while doing the opposite? don't you not care whether their actions align with their words or not?
So who should we vote for?
I’m going to either vote for Jill Stein or Claudia De la Cruz. Both are appealing for different reasons.
I want real options. Neither will have a positive affect in the election. If I vote for either of them, that's basically helping Trump. Who supports genocide. I'd rather support the people that say genocide is bad.
The Democrats deny that there is a genocide. They are engaging in it, not saying it is bad.
You're Right, I'll correct myself and say that at least Democrats aren't denying Israel is killing too many. So which do you prefer in office, Trump or Harris? Only either of them will win, so saying neither is the same as disengaging with politics.
If those are the only options, I'd rather disengage from politics.
it literally does not matter
Lol ok sure bud, Trump moving the embassy to Israel, and wanting Israel to hurry up with their genocide is the same as Kamala criticizing Israel.
Stop supporting genocide. Stop pretending you don't hear that.
I could attend every Free Palestine protest, boycott every Israel-affiliated company, volunteer at human-rights organizations, raise money for Palestinian relief, write a book about the genocide of the Palestinian people at the hands of Israel, and cast a vote for Harris rather than Trump, and you would still say I support genocide.
While doing what you would probably rather me do, all those things except not cast a vote at all, would be actively helping the opposition, who not only wants Israel to "finish the job," but also moved the American embassy to Jerusalem, officially recognized Israeli settlements one the West Bank as legal, and has said he wants to deport communists and Free Palestine protesters.
So at the end of the day, yeah I'm gonna vote for Harris. Am I happy with the Democratic party? Of fucking course not, but I don't really have a choice in the matter.
Any list that contains X contains X. You're giving material support to a political faction that's carrying out genocide. The political analogy isn't voting for Hindenburg, it's reelecting Hitler in 1944.
What I want you to do is recognize that there are no solutions within the existing political order and that is not an excuse.
Kamala did NOT call for a cease fire. She said for 3 weeks directly after it.
Their "ceasefire" is a lie. They just want a pause.
I want Kamala to call for an arms embargo on Israel if they refuse to negotiate a ceasefire.
They want us to magically fix all the problems overnight, while blaming us for everything in the meantime.
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Ah yes, the person publicly calling for ceasefire while sending the weapons needed to conduct genocide. What's more liberal than being unable to connect rhetoric to tangible action.