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[-] bountygiver@lemmy.ml -1 points 4 months ago

that is true, but it's still better to snooze the timer of the bomb than letting it explode. Currently the problem is still the first past the post system.

The only reason of letting trump win is if you are willing to gamble on his term resulting a violent revolution for the better.

[-] FanonFan@hexbear.net 18 points 4 months ago

If you actually care, go join an org and read some theory. "Snoozing the timer of the bomb" requires working for a real solution that can be actualized in this supposed extra time. Otherwise it's the same performative nonsense we've been told by liberals for the last three elections.

[-] nat_turner_overdrive@hexbear.net 9 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I don't want fascist border and immigration policies, whether it's republicans or democrats doing it. Both are promising to do more of it, so I won't vote for them. I don't want a genocide in Palestine, whether it's democrats or republicans doing it, so I won't vote for them. I don't want an economic trade war with China, the nation that makes almost everything including the shit our own military uses. Once again, both are promising more of that, so I won't vote for them. I don't support prosecutors, so I won't vote for Harris. I don't supporting exploitative business owners or silver-spoon dipshits, so I won't vote for Trump.

There's no "snooze" on the bomb. Both of the parties are asking for your vote so they can detonate the bomb. You can't stop either of them from doing it, so why fucking endorse them?

[-] WanderingVentra@lemm.ee 3 points 4 months ago

At least one party isn't trying to ban EV's and makes some attempts for green policy, which is important with climate change basically already here. They also forgive some student loans for some people, funded an infrastructure bill, and give some increased child tax credits. Also isn't trying to hurt LGBTQ people in a federal level.

[-] nat_turner_overdrive@hexbear.net 1 points 4 months ago

At least one party isn't trying to ban EV's

https://www.npr.org/2024/05/14/1251096758/biden-china-tariffs-ev-electric-vehicles-5-things

China is the largest EV manufacturer on the planet and make better and cheaper EVs than the extraordinarily expensive US-made EVs. But you're right, making it so only the wealthy can have EVs isn't technically banning them; it's just not any better.

makes some attempts for green policy, which is important with climate change basically already here.

Half and quarter measures are again no different from doing nothing at all. Pretend green initiatives that do nothing but placate soft libs who don't actually care about policy doesn't help.

They also forgive some student loans for some people, funded an infrastructure bill, and give some increased child tax credits. Also isn't trying to hurt LGBTQ people in a federal level.

They're not trying to protect LGBTQ people either, and everything else you just mentioned was done in name only, they're all complete failures compared to the promises of the Biden campaign.

So all it takes to get you to vote for genocide is faking doing good things without really actually doing anything.

[-] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 1 points 4 months ago

Currently the problem is still the first past the post system.

I'm so sick of libs talking about this. That is not the problem. Your system is not broken. It is working exactly as its intended to work for the people it was designed to work for.

You can't reform a system exists solely to oppress you

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