Yep, combined with lax seating positions. You press into the back so your ass kinda pushes forward, being stopped by the friction with the chair, which then slowly but steadily wears it down. I change my position fairly frequently too as I can't stand (...) sitting in the same position the whole time.
Especially cheaper chairs will degrade like this very quickly but I've yet to see a chair that not goes through this process (I'm too poor to afford the expensive models though). If you reach the point of having a big hole I'd suggest putting some other fabric beneath it - that at least helps preserve the foam some longer. Also, this faux leather material is very bad with sweat and starts to become stiff quickly, causing it to crack and peel.
Really? I know they're better for airing but I always thought they're kinda worse because you only have that one thin layer of fabric to go through and they usually don't have replacement parts.
That one layer is far sturdier than the covering on a traditional office chair, at least if it's a budget model and not actual leather. You can also replace the mesh, but if you aren't using a super expensive model, I think it's easier to just replace the chair at that point. Anecdotally, I sit on my feet all the time and haven't had any problems with the mesh tearing.
Yep... :(
I've given up on finding a chair that simply offers compatible replacement parts. It's stupid and wasteful as hell but I guess it is just not worth it for the manufacturers. I'm sure conceptually it is entirely feasible to do this - especially since you have to assemble them out of their different parts anyway. With the mentioned mesh chairs you could even have a removable frame that just holds the mesh that you can buy again if needed and have it snap into the main char frame holding it.
Don't complain that you can't get replacement parts if you're not ready to pay the price to buy from a manufacturer that will invest to produce the extra parts necessary to offer the service instead of manufacturing just what is necessary to assemble new products.
Offering replacement parts means manufacturing them and storing them, potentially for years, there's a cost to that and that cost is paid when you purchase the product. Cars would be much cheaper if manufacturers didn't have to make replacement parts as well!
I checked the official German store and they did not offer any replacement parts there, or at least I could not find any.
Also, modularity is not that much more expensive to the point where you have to pay thousands of bucks for a chair. That's a bullshit argument. Every single office chair is assembled at home, even the cheapest ones.
The manufacturer not offering the same parts separately is simply a marketing strategy so that you have to buy a whole fucking chair again.
The extra parts still need to be built and stored in order to offer them, that's a huge increase in cost because it makes the difference between manufacturing and shipping and manufacturing, storing and shipping. Storage space ain't free buddy.
It's just a small shift in storage / management. Those parts are already stored separately before they get packaged into a box with all the other parts. This does not warrant a few hundred bucks, let alone a 1000-2000 bucks uptick. Please stop with those bullshit arguments.
They're stored to ship complete products, if you take a seat from storage for repairs then you're stuck with the rest of the chair without a seat.
Herman Miller also makes premium chairs so that explains why it's so much more expensive, but I'm sure you can find brands with parts available that are cheaper, just not as cheap as whatever you're buying now and there's a good reason for that.
Yep, combined with lax seating positions. You press into the back so your ass kinda pushes forward, being stopped by the friction with the chair, which then slowly but steadily wears it down. I change my position fairly frequently too as I can't stand (...) sitting in the same position the whole time. Especially cheaper chairs will degrade like this very quickly but I've yet to see a chair that not goes through this process (I'm too poor to afford the expensive models though). If you reach the point of having a big hole I'd suggest putting some other fabric beneath it - that at least helps preserve the foam some longer. Also, this faux leather material is very bad with sweat and starts to become stiff quickly, causing it to crack and peel.
I used to have this problem, but switched to mesh chairs a few years ago and it's completely solved it. (Doesn't need to be a super expensive one.)
Really? I know they're better for airing but I always thought they're kinda worse because you only have that one thin layer of fabric to go through and they usually don't have replacement parts.
That one layer is far sturdier than the covering on a traditional office chair, at least if it's a budget model and not actual leather. You can also replace the mesh, but if you aren't using a super expensive model, I think it's easier to just replace the chair at that point. Anecdotally, I sit on my feet all the time and haven't had any problems with the mesh tearing.
What's convenient is that we find it obscene to patch the assrest, which would mark the posterior-stressed spot unless executed unusually well.
So we just replace the whole fucking chair, piston, wheels, back, bolts and all.
Makes the chair business go round and round like a kid who just discovered the only remnant of joy mankind allowed to exist in the office.
Yep... :( I've given up on finding a chair that simply offers compatible replacement parts. It's stupid and wasteful as hell but I guess it is just not worth it for the manufacturers. I'm sure conceptually it is entirely feasible to do this - especially since you have to assemble them out of their different parts anyway. With the mentioned mesh chairs you could even have a removable frame that just holds the mesh that you can buy again if needed and have it snap into the main char frame holding it.
Herman Miller
They have neither replacement parts nor are they in any sort of way affordable when they cost like 2-5 times the amount of my PC.
You can buy replacement parts
Don't complain that you can't get replacement parts if you're not ready to pay the price to buy from a manufacturer that will invest to produce the extra parts necessary to offer the service instead of manufacturing just what is necessary to assemble new products.
Offering replacement parts means manufacturing them and storing them, potentially for years, there's a cost to that and that cost is paid when you purchase the product. Cars would be much cheaper if manufacturers didn't have to make replacement parts as well!
I checked the official German store and they did not offer any replacement parts there, or at least I could not find any.
Also, modularity is not that much more expensive to the point where you have to pay thousands of bucks for a chair. That's a bullshit argument. Every single office chair is assembled at home, even the cheapest ones. The manufacturer not offering the same parts separately is simply a marketing strategy so that you have to buy a whole fucking chair again.
The extra parts still need to be built and stored in order to offer them, that's a huge increase in cost because it makes the difference between manufacturing and shipping and manufacturing, storing and shipping. Storage space ain't free buddy.
It's just a small shift in storage / management. Those parts are already stored separately before they get packaged into a box with all the other parts. This does not warrant a few hundred bucks, let alone a 1000-2000 bucks uptick. Please stop with those bullshit arguments.
They're stored to ship complete products, if you take a seat from storage for repairs then you're stuck with the rest of the chair without a seat.
Herman Miller also makes premium chairs so that explains why it's so much more expensive, but I'm sure you can find brands with parts available that are cheaper, just not as cheap as whatever you're buying now and there's a good reason for that.