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He’s had yet another horrible week. The old tricks aren’t working. Kamala Harris does not fear him. And it’s showing in the numbers.

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[-] jj4211@lemmy.world 196 points 1 month ago

Just to remind everyone in 2016 people had pretty much already planned their Clinton victory parties and everyone "knew" that Trump was going to lose, the polling was so clear and Trump was such a joke. Perhaps some even took care of "more important" stuff than voting because it was so sure.

So keep your excitement to take you to the voting booths rather than letting it make you complacent.

[-] Osito@lemmy.world 36 points 1 month ago

Yea while Kamala is ahead in the polls , a frighteningly large amount of people still support 45

[-] PM_Your_Nudes_Please@lemmy.world 27 points 1 month ago

Even then, the error % on polls is high enough that Trump could be ahead instead.

Polls post their calculated error %. If they could be off by like 5% in either direction, then that’s what they say. And if the poll shows Trump losing by 2%, with a 5% error, that means Trump could win by 3%.

Every single reputable poll that has been published shows a Trump victory within the margin of error.

[-] jhymesba@lemmy.world 29 points 1 month ago

Thanks for saying this. It's Mid-August. There are two whole months in which things can go wildly off the rails. Rather than celebrating polls in mid-August, let's take this happy energy and make plans to go to the only poll that matters -- the actual election -- and make these mid-August hopes turn into January certainty. Plan the celebrations after we win in November, to coincide with Harris taking the Oath in January.

[-] DJDarren@thelemmy.club 26 points 1 month ago

There are two whole months in which things can go wildly off the rails.

It’s astonishing how long the US election cycle is. There’s longer until the next US election than the entire campaign here in the UK, yet it’s all I’ve heard about for the past three years.

Can you guys not just chill the fuck out?

[-] makatwork@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago

I wish. Our politics are so exhausting.

[-] aesthelete@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

Can you guys not just chill the fuck out?

I used to go years between worrying about politics before Trump was president. I'm hoping those days can return somehow.

[-] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Yes, this. During his "presidency", I got so sick of dreading the morning's news. When I'd see someone else and they'd say "did you see/hear what he did now?", you didn't even have to ask who "he" was; you knew.

[-] aesthelete@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

It was exhausting and the country barely survived it. I have no idea what's in store for any of us if they put his ass back there again.

[-] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works -4 points 1 month ago

"I wish I could just go back to sleep for 4 years." What a privileged take.

[-] aesthelete@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

Not everyone wants to think about politics all day everyday.

[-] TehWorld@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

"Make Politics Boring Again" Republicans have by-and-large politicized a HUGE number of things that should simply be left up to the scientific community. We shouldn't NEED to have hearings on whether the planet is warming. The debate should be on minutia that aims to bring equity to all humanity, and frankly that's pretty boring.

[-] Tryptaminev@lemm.ee 5 points 1 month ago

Obviously not. If people would chill out it would have to be about judging and responding to actual policy decision, instead of watching GoT political drama.

The longer the election cycle, the more politics are a show and bad policy can be justified with "election tactics".

[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Media companies and political consultants have a vested interest in making this take as long as possible.

[-] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 month ago

The polls only look good because they're so much better than they were for Biden. It's still a toss-up, because those percentages are within the margin of error of the polls. (At least, for most of the swing states.)

[-] Landless2029@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago

And make sure you tell everyone else to get out and vote.

Offer carpools to take people to vote if you can. We need numbers at the booths. Especially if you're in a swing state or red.

[-] Letsdothis@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago

The mainstream media just doesn't reflect/represent the majority of Americans anymore and hasn't for quite some time, actually.

[-] jj4211@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago

This would suggest that the polls indicated that Hilary was more popular despite Trump going on to win the popular vote. This did not happen. The majority of Americans dislike Trump and he lost the popular vote and never had an approval rating over 50%.

However, there's a lot of reporting on polls that operate like the popular vote, despite the popular vote not really mattering.

The actual assessment is that the electoral college just doesn't reflect/represent the majority of Americans, and it never really did.

[-] suction@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Wait, that's what "they" all say?!

[-] phx@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 month ago

Yeah, don't be so sure of winning that you get too lazy to fricking vote. And also watch out because I'm sure there will be some dirty tricks around polling stations as certain Republican areas get desperate

[-] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

and there's plenty of time for the propaganda machine to find a server, laptop or some other bullshit to give people an excuse to not vote for her.

[-] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Honestly, I think this is one of the many reasons the hard right hate mail-in voting. There is less time for them pull off their typical rat-fucking dirty tricks if people already mailed in their votes.

[-] DarkCloud@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Unfortunately I don't see Kamala winning just yet, nothing is certain, there's a lot of Trump supporters in the wood work, and the establishment liberal media play a game of "maybe if we pretend they're losing, they'll lose".

...which is wishful thinking that destroys people's grip on reality, and causes a lot of voters to not bother to show up.

[-] eestileib@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 month ago

The establishment media wants Trump to win, don't fool yourself.

[-] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago

I think it's pretty obvious that if that guy gets elected, it's going to be a shitstorm, and that isn't good for the establishment.

[-] eestileib@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 month ago

And yet they carry his water every day.

[-] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago

The newsmedia seems to be gutting him right now, except for a couple of right-wing outlets.

[-] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

The "liberal media" wants low t to win.

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