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I would throw all the money at just one reporter who asks JD Vance point blank "Sir, isn't the man you're campaigning with actually borrowing Mr. Epstein's plane right now?" live on the air. The squirming would be glorious.
They never will. They want to protect their access to the candidates and don't want the death threats. I guarantee none of these milquetoast reporters are willing to do that.
Maybe someone like Robert Evens would do it, but he's probably on a "kick out on sight" list for such things.
Edited just in case it wasn't clear enough:
The plane was liquidated, bought by some random charter plane company, and then Trump hired a charter plane. It's as much news as if I hired a taxi, and the physical car that came over was previously owned by Epstein (bought by that taxi company in a liquidation).
That's what this particular plane issue is. It's nothing. Attack Trump's actual connection to Epstein. Hiring a charter plane that was previously owned by someone else is not that.
If that was the only issue... sure. But Trump was literally friends with the sex trafficker, and there's photos of them together to prove it!
That. Is. Not. This. Plane. Issue.
Yeah but
No idea why you're in the negatives. Not only that, but it was just one of J.E.'s private planes, of which there are a finite supply of in the country. It's a nothingburger other than the fact that it maybe illustrates just how big of a guy Epstein was
It also proves that Trump's team just doesn't look into anything that the media might consider an issue and use to attack him. Given his drama-laden reactions to some things, I don't think that's a conscious choice but rather incompetence. They just don't consider what might be used to attack him which is also why they always react liktheyve been caught with their pants down, because they are. All the time.
It isn't a real issue, but a lot of media doesn't give a shit about real issues, they make whatever they can an issue because that brings in viewers which in turn means advertising revenue. It used to be that the staff and campaigns would vet suppliers for this type of thing, no matter how tangential, because it could be used against them.
If there's anything the Republicans have mastered over the last 50+ years, it's how to make something that literally isn't an issue to anyone, an issue to their base. One would think with that mastery they would try to limit that exposure themselves.
If you think that's a coincidence, I have beachfront property on Mars you may be interested in.
It actually probably is and when you make shit up you’re acting like the liars over on right wing media outlets. You have literally no evidence, which means it can be dismissed without evidence.
Like use some fucking common sense: why would they choose that plane on purpose?
Edit: for real this shit where everyone just flippantly calls everyone pedophiles all the time is vile. It’s basically the single worst thing you can accuse someone of. It’s too normal to say that now. Be better than that, it’s a really fucking low bar.
Knowing the former history of the plane, why wouldn't Trump tell them to literally give him any other fucking plane? if it were anyone else I'd write it off as a coincidence, but that man getting that plane isn't just random chance. But you're telling me not one person who was responsible for that transaction at any step of the way didn't look at the renter, look at what plane he was renting, and say "Hey, given the history between these two, we may wanna give the guy another plane.....", even if only to avoid bad optics.
Trump being on that plane right now means he either knew and didn't care, or directly requested it.
When you rent a car do you ever ask who drove it prior?
This is ridiculous. The other guy clearly laid out how the plane changed hands. People who rent private jets don’t give 2 shits who owned or used it. They just want a jet.
You need evidence or you need to stop making shit up
Your rental car doesn't have its VIN painted on the tail in large lettering and publically searchable.
It's called vetting your suppliers. To make sure someone you're using isn't a potential liability.
Give me a fucking break lmao you know this from all the private jets you charter?
Whether I charter planes has nothing to do with vetting suppliers. I do vet my suppliers as a regular citizen. You do the same thing all the time. I check the reviews of various car rental agencies in the area I'm going to see which are better or worse. That is a form of vetting.
A Presidential campaign and former Presdient would 100% have access to more information than basic reviews. Given the public spectacle of Epstein, they should have information about where assets that Trump may come into contact with in the future are located to prevent this exact scenario.
I can only tolerate so much speculative bullshit. Provide one single piece of evidence. None of y’all have, the few of you pushing this nonsense all consistently refuse to.
It was a liquidated asset that was transferred to another company which rents out charter planes. Why the fuck would they choose to fly in Epstein’s plane? It’s not like they bought it off of him. It’s not like they got a special deal. They rented a charter jet just like all these people do and no one would ever think who owned it or used it. You need evidence to prove that this was at least negligent. Or You need evidence that this was intentional. You need fucking anything to grasp to other than the ridiculous straws you’re pulling on.
Trump advance are pieces of shit. But y’all are just making shit up
I can only assume you replied to the wrong comment. I never said it was intentional. I never even implied it was intentional. I said the Trump political team is incompetent for letting the company use that specific aircraft with the history it has. His team being filled with incompetent people isn't exactly a hot take.
Him using the plane isn't really an issue, you're right, it's just a charter plane (that I hope they deep cleaned given its history). But the fact his staff didn't prevent the usage of that specific aircraft, given the context, just shows they aren't capable of seeing potential issues ahead of time that they easily could avoid.
Political staff normally try to vet suppliers and partners to minimize surprises like this. They normally keep track of issues from a politician's past that could cause more issues in the future. Given Trump's personal history with Epstein, and specifically the issue of Epstein's plane being a primary piece of his pedophilic empire known to the general public, one would have thought they would keep tabs on that.
Stop making shit up.
What are you talking about? What do you think I an making up?
I'm not making any claims. Well, other than Trump's staff being filled with idiots, but I'm pretty sure that's just a well-known fact at this point.
That is a completely different argument than "Trump purposefully choose to be on a former Epstein plane because... reasons" that the other guy is making. Yes, we all know the Trump team is inept, hence why they hang around the guy. The fact that they didn't vet their supplier isn't proof of some conspiracy.
If I were to recognize the car as one being owned by a murderer or pedo or something? Absolutely. Trump was on that plane enough to know it was Epstein's. It would be like Michael Cohen saying he doesn't recognize Trump's jet.
How on earth would they know it on sight? Give me a break. That’s absurd. This is so far fetched you’re reaching dude.
No you wouldn't and we're not talking about swapping our a Corolla for a Honda Civic. The amount of private jets for charter that can support someone like Trump and his company on such a short notice are in very limited supply. Beggers can't be choosers, and all.
You have nothing to support this. It wasn't the Lolita Express, it was just one plane of many that an LLC of Epstein's owned.
There is plenty of actually supportable claims to make about Trump, this isn't one of them and you are grasping at straws here
ETA: Let's just let this train of thought run, though. What exactly do you think happened here? Trump intentionally grounded his plane because he knew a fleet jet from his old friend Epstein was available for charter and he really wanted to ride in it instead of his personal jet?
It's obvious that admitting they were wrong is out of the question.
Dude the plane was liquidated, bought by some random charter company, and Trump hired a charter plane. It's as much news as if I hired a taxi, and the taxi car that came over was previously owned by Epstein (bought by that taxi company in a liquidation). That's what this particular plane issue is.
Never bring logic to a circlejerk.
Fuck that even the dude HUNG THE FUCK OUT WITH HIM
I might use Hitler's headphones cause he dead now and they mine, don't mean we friends. Trump literally was this dudes good ass fuckin friend
I can’t wait for you to see how headphone technology has improved in the last 80 years
Now I'd like to see some diesel-powered metal headphones with flames from Castle Wolfenstein to compare ;)
Yeah, they've got batteries that can die and they constantly lose signal now. Plus all the lag.