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submitted 2 months ago by Linkerbaan@lemmy.world to c/usa@lemmy.ml

“What was very shocking was that while we were all in the room discussing and listening to people impacted by what’s happening in Gaza, we’re not certain that that message will get across to the people at the top of the party,” Khader added. “You look at the themes of the party’s convention – today, tomorrow, Wednesday, and Thursday – there’s nowhere where Palestinians are included in that narrative.”

While the platform condemned former President Donald Trump for refusing to “endorse the political aspirations of the Palestinian people,” it made no divergence from the status quo policy of vetoing UN Security Council resolutions this year that moved towards Palestinian statehood.

While the platform boasts of being opposed to settler violence, it makes no acknowledgment of the International Court of Justice finding the Israeli government’s occupation and illegal expansions of settlements constitute apartheid.

And to that end, while the platform condemns UN efforts that apparently “single out” Israel, and the Boycott, Divest, and Sanctions movement for the same – apparently ignoring the historical precedent of Americans also boycotting and pushing divestment against fossil fuel companies and apartheid South Africa.

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[-] Bleys@lemmy.world -3 points 2 months ago

Just curious why your entire account is countless articles criticizing democrats for their Palestine stance while applying absolutely no scrutiny to republicans, despite republicans being infinitely more hardline pro-Israel?

[-] lukecooperatus@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 months ago

I think it's pretty much a given that someone who criticizes the DNC stance on Palestine is also opposed to the GOP stance. Why do they need to list out all the other horrific people when they make a critique? You're engaging in whataboutism here.

If someone critiques the GOP for being blatantly racist, do you similarly ask them why they aren't mentioning the KKK directly? No, it's fucking assumed. Stop being a jackass.

[-] Bleys@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

This guy only posts articles calling out democrats, and does not mention republicans at all. So it’s definitely not implied that he supports one over the other. Especially when this specific line is the most popular wedge issue for conservative-aligned interests, despite once again democrats being substantially more progressive on this issue.

And whataboutism? The GOP is one of two parties in a two party system, with the other being democrats. So yes it’s natural that if you mention one party’s stance you would then also mention the other.

Also just lol at immediately responding with name calling. Btw can you name a single Republican that’s advocated for Palestine? Because I see a lot of Ds, but not a single R.

[-] frauddogg@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Isn't the democrat party supposedly the one that can be "pulled left"? Honestly ignorant take. Unless, of course, the Demons are just as entrenched as the known-fascist Republicans; in which case, there's no material difference between the parties, just in how they phrase their policy

[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 months ago

Probably because it's the most important political issue of the election. 🙄

[-] Bleys@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

Sounds good. Btw can you name a single Republican who supports Palestine? I can only seem to find Democrats. Just want to know when you help the Republicans win :)

[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml -2 points 2 months ago

There's a bipartisan genocide consensus.

Would you vote for genocide if it was your family being starved and tortured?

[-] ChronosTriggerWarning@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago

Sisterhood of the traveling goalposts, i see.

[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml -4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

The goal post is stopping the genocide i.e. the most important issue of the election. Why does it being your family make a difference? That's hardly a new goalpost. 🙄

[-] ChronosTriggerWarning@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago

Why does it being your family make a difference?

Who put these words in my mouth?

[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml -2 points 2 months ago

I assumed you said I was moving the goal posts because I brought your family into this. Now I have no idea what you think the goal posts even are 🤨

[-] ChronosTriggerWarning@lemmy.world -1 points 2 months ago

You made the claim it's "the most important issue of the election." When asked which Republican you could name that supports Palestine, you deflected and brought in a red herring. Red herrings are the goalpost, sliding along.

[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml -3 points 2 months ago

The most important issue is the genocide, and when you tried to change the subject I refocused it on the genocide.

The only chance to end the genocide is to pressure Democrats to change their platform. That's it. Voting for Republicans wouldn't help, but protesting Democrats and embarrassing them and threatening to withhold votes unless our demands are met might be able to make progress on this issue.

My concern is genocide. You don't seem to care.

[-] ChronosTriggerWarning@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago

Trump encouraged your genocide. Cheered it on. Told them to continue it for personal gain....

But mum's the word. Biden bad. So, unless you're condemning Trump for his incredibly worse actions in this while situation, i gotta say, you don't seem to care.

[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml -2 points 2 months ago

That's because there is a bipartisan genocide consensus. I already acknowledged that.

The goal of pressuring Democrats through our voices and votes is to break the bipartisan consensus. If protest matters, if voting matters, then this pressure campaign will have results. We already forced Biden out of the campaign - what else can we do?

[-] ChronosTriggerWarning@lemmy.world -2 points 2 months ago

We already forced Biden out of the campaign - what else can we do?

I dunno. Condemning Trump for interfering in a CEASEFIRE DEAL would be a fine start. Just cos he's "not in office" doesn't negate the effect he's having, but you're so myopic you either can't or refuse to see it.

[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml -2 points 2 months ago

Protesters are condemning Trump, what are you even talking about?

[-] ChronosTriggerWarning@lemmy.world -1 points 2 months ago

Commenters. Here. Calling him genocide Joe while ignoring Trump pushing to continue the genocide. It's called hypocrisy.

[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 months ago

The genocide is being armed by genocide Joe. He's literally responsible for Israel having enough bombs to do this shit.

Trump playing his own part in this genocide is just proof that Democrats would rather lose than stop doing genocide. This genocide benefits Trump and Democrats are supporting it!

[-] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

Because the Democrats are in power right now and are the ones responsible for the Genocide still going on. Not the Republicans.

Republicans occasionally get some posts as well. Interestingly when I post about them nobody shows up. And then they keep claiming what you're saying right now.

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