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For context: One of the rules in that community is that you aren't allowed to post anything related to suicide. In a mental health community.

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[-] RedditRefugee69@lemm.ee 76 points 1 year ago

But there’s research to prove that’s not a thing. Copy-catting maybe, but you’ll never “give them the idea”. If they’re in that bad of a spot, they’re there already -source: suicide prevention trainer, but not mental health professional

[-] ccryx@discuss.tchncs.de 24 points 1 year ago

Could you provide a source for that research? I swear I'm not being combative, just genuinely interested.

[-] Speckle@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago

Not OP but here you go. I work with young people and have had suicide prevention training multiple times, this is a recurring mantra that not asking about it is much worse than asking.

[-] Roundcat@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

Thanks a lot for posting the study.

[-] ccryx@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 year ago

Thanks. I wonder if this is limited to a therapeutic context and if the same is true for third party mentions of suicide. But I'll look around for that by myself.

[-] pjhenry1216@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago

Not the original commenter, but I know it's included in the yearly training for Army civilians and soldiers. We have to take suicide prevention training every year. I don't think the training itself sources the info though. Also I don't know if you can access the training without a CAC. In any case, they say that it is just a myth. You don't have to tiptoe around the idea of suicide. It's better to ask someone if they're thinking about it if you're truly worried that they are.

[-] Trainguyrom@reddthat.com 2 points 1 year ago

Also I don’t know if you can access the training without a CAC

Archive.org has a collection of titled "The Military Industrial PowerPoint Complex" that contains exactly what you'd think, a crapton of US Military PowerPoint files. I'm sure if you dig enough that specific training is out there, although in sure theres better places to find such infotmation too

[-] ccryx@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 year ago
[-] Aesthesiaphilia@kbin.social -2 points 1 year ago

For me, personally, it's not because it triggers suicidal ideation - I agree with the research I've seen that suggests it's not a thing, or at least not a statistically significant thing.

For me, the issue is that people who say they're suicidal get attention and sympathy

For certain emotionally immature people, attention and sympathy is their #1 goal in life

In addition, teenagers want to both be cool and different, yet be accepted by everyone. You can't NOT accept a suicidal person, because what if they suicide themselves? If you say you're suicidal, suddenly everyone HAS to be nice to you.

All of this is to say that, no, all y'all dumb motherfuckers are not actually suicidal, you're just fucking sad, edgy, and boring, and you need to quit it because you're drowning out the actual struggling people.

Every damn day I see it "waaaaah I want to dieeeeeeee" no the fuck you don't, you're just trying to sound cool. Grow up.

[-] RedditRefugee69@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago

Fair, but you have to REALLY know someone to pass that judgment and you can’t do that on internet comments

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