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A hypothetical god would have the ability to end all evil, but doesn't. God is hate.
A hypothetical god can be anything that supports your arguments. Since your hypothetical god has the ability to end all evil, but doesn't, your hypothetical god could potentially be hateful.
That's not my hypothetical god, though.
All knowledge, including the knowledge of my hypothetical god, comes from experience.
Everything that can be, is, at one time and place or many. But only that which can be. And only to the degree that we live it. The thing is, there's a lot we're willing to live, though - and that's kindof the saddest Que Sera Sera. Sovereignty is foundational.
But, what isn't possible is uncreating that which already is. To destroy others, you violate sovereignty. To destroy evil, one must destroy the very consciousness of evil, because evil is fundamentally based in experience - and through destroying the very consciousness of evil, one would become susceptible to doing it unconsciously.
If, as a god, you destroy evil, you also must destroy everything that led up to it, which includes the capacity for choice. Once you remove the capacity for choice, you are simply subject to the forces of life -- and evolution. Evolution works rather well, and generates the capacity for choice. Oops. There's that naive capacity for evil again.
So, we can't destroy what is - but we can build something better. And we do. And that is the thing that has been there the whole time, since the beginning, providing the structure along the way - for good or evil.
I'm more referring to the Christian interpretation where god is supposed to be all knowing, all loving, and all powerful.
God can only be all knowing, all loving, and all powerful if the power is distributed between three aspects that have imperfect communication. Or, if there's atemporal consent, or the present situation for any given individual is the desired one, or that the overall situation (including lack of knowledge) is the one the person would choose, were they to have access to more information. Or any combination of the above.
So yes, while there may be aspects of truth in the all-loving, all-knowing, all-powerful mythos, it isn't internally consistent unless you assume the overall, correct picture isn't the way people typically see the world. And the way people view god sometimes - to be able to live without the consequences of living - is less accurate even than a fairy tale.
I absolutely agree, there are a lot of problems with this and not anything that points to it being true.
So, if that is the case, then if you actually value something - love, or good, or selfishness - be that, and be it to the whole of your ability. It will fail you, and you'll have to move on. Be it until you can let go without having to shove it away. It will be an option for you - something you're familiar with, that you can draw upon, genuinely, when it fits.
Do this enough, and the love grows, and you see why love is. Not only that, you'll start to see the massive impact that the mentality you project has on the actual events you run into in life - and once you see it, you gain more insight into it, and how to work with life, love, etc, including when to stand against it.
Rage on.
I don't think I'm quite understanding what you are saying.
What exactly do you think I need to do? Let go of what? What is "it"?
I'm saying that if you believe there is no all-loving, all-knowing, etc god/force/nature to the world, then just live whatever your best ideals are. Love, goodness, selfishness, hate, rage at a bullshit god - it doesn't matter. Each will fail. But the experience of living that ideal, consciously, is valuable.
"It" is the ideal, or principle, or perspective you live by, and invest your time and energy into. But I don't think you need to do something specific. I don't think a person can intentionally let something go until they've lived enough of it, and that can't really be rushed or stopped.