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Trump also supports genocide. Nobody who doesn't can possibly win.
If this is your line then you should probably just never vote ever, because this won't ever change.
I’m pretty doubtful the luminary you replied to lives in or has ever even been to the US.
They appear to be from the Netherlands, or a similar European country. TrickDacy pointed out their time zones of activity aren't based in the US, and the name Linkerbaan stems from Dutch.
Which begs the question, why do they care so much about bashing politicians in a country across the ocean, and why only ever Biden/Harris in particular? Linkerbaan, to this day, never answers why he doesn't ever attack Trump for being even worse than Biden or Harris ever would be for Gaza. It's almost like he doesn't really care about what's good for the people of Gaza, and just wants to push an agenda.
inb4 I get called an evil genocidal Zionist maniac, because Linkerbaan always does this when called out or someone disagrees with him: I fully support Gaza and the Palestinians, and absolutely despise the Israeli government and Hamas. Nothing about the Gaza situation is remotely acceptable and the Biden administration should do better. However, refusing to admit Donald "Finish the Job" Trump isn't the worse option is ignorant at best and actively harmful for the Palestinians at worst.
There have been people pushing this on Lemmy all year (previously against Biden) and that’s correct. They can never really respond to logic about how their concepts would result in Trump being more likely to win, which would be worse for Palestinians. Or how Trump’s many other horrific policies would be worse for a huge number of other people, such as Central Americans and trans people. Just “genocide bro!!” over and over.
There have been a few pathetic attempts at making logic for it like “I can’t vote to support genocide!” (As in, vote 3rd party? So, convince an other wise D voter to vote 3rd party - who does that help? Huh) or “we need to send the democrats a message so they reform!”. Not by throwing the election to Trump, no. Someone a few months ago was insisting “we’re just not supporting Biden now to pressure him, then of course we’ll vote for him in the general election”. Ah yes, by smearing him all over social media for months, you’re supporting Biden and progressive politics. I totally believe that.
It's funny that "candidates have to support genocide or they can't win" is motivating you to punch left instead of rioting in the streets against AIPAC
They had riots. It didn't work.
Stop pretending Harris is running a flawless campaign and ButTrUmP when the stupid lie gets debunked.
I'm not pretending that. I'm pointing out that the official policy of the US since before my parents were born has been to support Israel no matter what, and if that was going to change because anybody cared what was happening to Palestinians it would have changed decades ago.
So you need to accept that the country you live in will do heinous shit that you loathe and there's nothing you can do about it.
You need to accept that anyone enabling it is responsible. Anyone voting Democrat or Republican is complicit in Genocide and should face tribunals.
There was ignorance in the past. Everyone voting D now knows they will support Genocide and do so willingly
No. If you vote Republican OR neither, you are supporting TWO genocides. Because the Republicans want more than just Palestinians dead, like trans people, and a vote for third party as it is right now is only helping that along.
Sure bro you didn't care about the first Genocide but 2 Genocides is your red line.
Or there's something called picking the lesser of two evils...
Or there's something called the Neurenberg Trials
You're just a shining beacon of wisdom, aren't you?
Just sharing some wisdom from people from the past.
I do care about both. I want both of them to end. How does letting both happen help anything?
How does actively helping 1 happen help anything?
If you want it to end stop participating.
Can't help either of them if I let myself die to one.
Wow dude, do you live in a make believe world where anyone who you don't agree with gets the French razor?
Saying anyone who supports either side should face a tribunal is insane and completely idiotic.
I hope one day you can learn just because you have such a high radical leaning and believe death is deserved upon all who disagree with your ideology, doesn't mean that it should be done.
Linkerbaan isn't a rational person, nor participating in good faith. Their entire existence is arguing with people online and accusing people of loving genocide.
I've started to wonder if it's even a real person. They don't respond with any measure of logic or awareness to anything at all, just "liberals want genocide!!" over and over.
If they are a real person, then their existence is just plain sad. Spending that much time arguing online achieving absolutely nothing at all besides making everybody dislike them and causing harm to others.
Right, like “hey I’m going to post insulting and repetitive tripe and empty slogans, and make Lemmy worse after lunch today!” Great. Also, as countless people have pointed out, if they care so passionately about Palestinians, their activities are contrary to helping Palestine so…
Cope
Linkerbaan is one of our resident MAGAs. He likes the genocide against Palestinians but wants the guy who blasted Yemen to take over and "finish the job." He wants more killing in Ukraine. And he wants more killings in the US, like starting with socialists.
No just the literal Nazis that support Genocide.
Brilliant, I’ll just vote for a candidate who can’t possibly win. Then I’m all set.
Voting for Genocide has a higher chance to stop Genocide than voting against it - Liberals.
Really great job silencing yourself to prove a point. People who don't participate in society are great at enacting change 🙄
Yeah, that too. My tax dollars are going to kill children. Just like my father and his father before him.
Welcome to America.
Ahh, I love you, bro. This place is wild, ain't it? If one doesn't fall in line to their militant liberal agenda, you're ignorant MAGA scum.
I'm just glad to see someone else here trying to talk some sense.
What he's saying makes no sense at all, in real life. Voting for candidates who support voting reform at the state level is the way to get more choices on national ballots. Convincing otherwise D voters to vote for 3rd parties helps Trump. Maybe not MAGA scum, maybe just misguided and clueless? Who can tell.
Stay strong my man/woman. We had red MAGA in 2016 now we also have Blue MAGA. The death cult grows fast.
The divisiveness is insane and scary. So many feel such a devotion to "their side." They don't realize these politicians love getting them all riled up and emotional about an issue so that they will fight for their political agenda with passion. And they just sit back and laugh.
We use a first past the post system. Stop denying reality as if your third party candidate matters in the slightest. Until we get some sort of ranked choice/etc, they literally couldn't matter less
We’ve been trying to tell this shining intellectual star and friends that for 6 months but somehow they aren’t able to understand those comments.
A voting system is not relevant to denying support for Genocide. Read what post you are in.