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[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 month ago

in the same way the us wouldn't be allowed to join csto

Have NATO countries complained of CSTO expansion? Has the US been denied entry into CSTO? Has the CSTO expanded against the will of NATO?

i don't see how it's nato's fault that people are so sick of russia's shit that they're signing up to the defensive alliance against them in their droves

It's NATO's fault for consisting of the absolutely most grotesque reaches of Imperialist countries, and expanding against the wishes of non-NATO countries.

nato expansion that existed because of russian land grabs

Bzzzt wrong. NATO has been expanding long before.

this is just you doing the thing you accused me of doing by refusing to consider externalities

Quite the contrary, you're deliberately erasing historical context.

russia didn't start misbehavin' after 2022 either

When and why did Russia start "misbehavin?"

east germany was part of the warsaw pact, and had plenty of ex-nazis in its ranks

Whataboutism, lmao. East-Germany purged Nazis, that's one of the reasons the west complains that the GDR was authoritarian. NATO was led by Nazis.

Anyone that considers themselves a good person cannot be *pro-*NATO. You can disagree with Russia's invasion of Ukraine without being pro-NATO.

[-] whenyellowstonehasitsday@fedia.io -4 points 1 month ago

Has the US been denied entry into CSTO? Has the CSTO expanded against the will of NATO?

i don't think nato cares about csto

It's NATO's fault for consisting of the absolutely most grotesque reaches of Imperialist countries

russia is literally doing an imperialism right now, but nato is the one with grotesque reaches, okay

Bzzzt wrong. NATO has been expanding long before.

lmao because nato predates russia

and russia started getting into iffy wars basically at its inception

When and why did Russia start "misbehavin?"

probably because they're an imperialist power? i don't know

East-Germany purged Nazis

okay

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 month ago

i don't think nato cares about csto

So then why bring it up?

russia is literally doing an imperialism right now, but nato is the one with grotesque reaches, okay

Invasion and Imperialism are not the same thing. Regardless of the morality or immorality of invasion, NATO retains its status as Imperialist via surplus extraction and exploitation of the Global South.

lmao because nato predates russia

and russia started getting into iffy wars basically at its inception

This kinda verges on anti-Russian racism, there's no analysis of why you believe this.

probably because they're an imperialist power? i don't know

You indeed do not know.

okay

The GDR indeed purged Nazis, as they were attacked by western Germany, which largely retained its Nazis.

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