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I’m not a Trump fan nor am I defending incest.
Isn’t this meme about pedophilia though?
Cool, lets see if that's true. That's a direct quote. Would it be fair to assume Trump is an incest loving degenerate?
What are you trying to prove here?
This meme works with this or an except from this is the background.
But it doesn’t work with your choice of background pictures.
You weren't even calling trump incestuous. You were calling him a pedophile. Get your story straight.
Yeah, I understand and I don’t really care.
Thank you for proving my point. You've been wonderful. Now get outta here, ya weirdo.
I still don’t understand what your point is.
This meme is as cringe as the Biden hair sniffing memes.
You don't have to be this way. Be better.
Just say the words. Is he an incest loving degenerate? It can't possibly feel good knowing you have to look at a picture of a bird and insist it's a cat. No one is forcing you to participate in this farce.
Call him what he is.
This meme is a picture of Trump kissing his adult daughter and you have captioned it calling him a pedophile.
I don’t think you understand what I’m saying because you’re trying to get a very amusing gotcha moment for whatever reason.
You just can't bring yourself to say the words, can you?
Re-read the top quote. That's Donald Trump, direct quote. Is he.... an incest loving degenerate? I'm showing you a picture of a bird. All you have to do to break the silly programming is acknowledge it's a bird.
You don't have to insist it's a cat. Admitting you're in a cult is the first step to getting out.
Is the meme about incest or pedophilia though?
Tsk.. tsk.. well, I tried. Good luck, bud. You can always get out.
No one is keeping you there except you. I'm going to leave you this picture of a bird, okay? You look at it when you're ready.
Are you going to edit this comment after I’ve replied to it too?
Nah, I'm going to show you some bird pictures though. I said I'd leave you some.
This would be a better background with the caption you’ve chosen.
You can't bring yourself to say he's an incest loving degenerate when I give you a direct quote and a photo of him clearly giving a very 'unfatherlike' kiss to his own daughter.
Cultists don't get affected by anything they can explain away with plausible deniability, no matter how unlikely. Which is why I think you hate this meme so much. There isn't much to hide behind. Nothing, really. He's a pedophile, but barring a direct quote from him saying on national TV, "Hi, My name is Donald Trump and I raped Katie Johnson, and my daughter too."... you'll deny he is one. Katie Johnson is the 13 year old that tried to sue him in 2016, she said in her deposition that Trump liked her because "she looked like his daughter".
Just say the words. Do you need more bird pictures?
Lets start with baby steps.
... Is he, an incest loving degenerate?
It’s because you’re captioning it calling him a pedo when he’s kissing his adult daughter, but I’ve told you this already.
When you muddle the allegations it makes for a confusing and not very good meme.
Say the words. I promise, it'll be okay.
No one is going to hurt you. You don't need to be a part of that cult anymore. You certainly don't have to debase yourself for THAT man.
The words?
Is he an incest loving degenerate?
I said the words ‘the words’ as I typed the words ‘the words’ as you requested.
Are you reneging on your deal now?
Haha. Maybe one day. A bird will always be a bird, bud.
No matter how much you insist otherwise. But I hope for your sake that you can bring yourself to say that out loud.
You can't start healing until you admit you have a problem.
Jesus Christ man reread this thread as if you're not communist _synthesizer and try to realise how weirdly defensive you're coming off.
Ignore for a second whether cumfart is a trump sympathiser, you're being presented with reasons why your meme doesn't make sense and, instead of just owning up to it, you're getting yourself all razzed up in some weird defense about why trump is still an asshole.
Just admit that the meme could have been worded better/different whilst also still maintaining that trump is an incestuous goblin man. This way, you come off as a well rounded, mature person who can admit their faults and everyone is more likely to give you the benefit of the doubt when you do make a mistake, rather than seeing this dumpster fire of an exchange.
Hopefully you'll read this and not come back at me with some 'the best defense is a good offense' type comment.
Just to get in before you do, I agree trump is a sketchy, probably incestuous, probably pedofillic, smeglump.
Have a nice day.
Oof, I got what I wanted out of this post but you sound genuine, so Imma wade back in for a second here.
Yeah, of course. It could have been worded differently. But I'm not going for accuracy. I'm going for:
And I already clarified why I chose the specific phrasing and picture. It's because the only real defense an actual cultist can make is to say it's not as bad as pedophilia because it's just garden variety incest.
I'm not ashamed to admit I have an "agenda".
The right wing in this country weaponized that word to attack everything from school teachers to trans folk. I wanted to pair quotes and imagery that left absolutely no wriggle room to dispute it, and rub their nose in it.
All the other photos posted? I've seen cultists claim firsthand they're all nothingburgers because it's "just a father showing affection for his child, and you're a sick pedo if you see anything else."
Katie Johnson's lawsuit? "Has he been convicted yet?"
Epstein's Island? "He stopped being friends with him long ago."
Simply put, anything short of direct quotes and photo/video evidence isn't enough to move a Trump supporter.
I want the link of Trump=Pedo paired with irrefutable evidence of his sexual degeneracy and this is as close as I can get until Trump admits he is one in National TV. (Rate he is going I wouldn't be surprised if he did.)
As for my interaction with Mr. Fartbox(?) over here...
Looks like I'm catching some aggro from the folks hung up on accuracy, and I gotta say, being new to the party it's kind of heartwarming to see you guys all coming together to defend one of your own.
It's sweet.
That said, I'm going to keep making the style of memes I like, you're welcome to make your own, and by all means downvote to your heart's content when the inaccuracy of the word choices bothers you.
I thought the guy was a proper cultist, (he did a convincing job of cosplaying one) hence that specific comment thread where you see me essentially trying to make him say one bad thing about Donald Trump, and failing.
If he wasn't so stubborn the thread would have been two comments long.
I didn't let him have what he wanted because I didn't want him to leave. If he was a cultist, he would have 'claimed victory' for making me admit the meme doesn't actually depict pedophilia and I wouldn't have had a chance to try to convert him, or at least sow the seeds of doubt. If you read the exchange, you see me going, "baby steps first."
There's no way to dispute he's into incest if you have eyes and ears. Admitting that he is into incest is the first step. You gotta get them to take that step first before you can move onto bigger stuff on shakier evidence.
But he's not! That's great! That's one less cultist to convince to sit home or pull for Harris this November. I also wouldn't have wasted 30 minutes of my time trying to convert one, but I'm just as happy to know he wasn't one in the first place.
I said the words, now I’ve said that.
What else do you want from me?
They want you to also equate incest and pedophilia in order to preserve their ego. But, they're incapable of effectively communicating their request.
Sure he is probably an incest loving degenerate. That's not what your meme is saying though. It's calling him a pedophile. Which is again a separate issue.
Is he also a pedophile? Probably looking at the evidence gathered here. Is that image you posted evidence of him being a pedophile? No. So why not choose the correct image for the caption, and the correct caption for the image? You could have found an image of him doing both at once.
Both at once?
You know, that's actually a great idea. Next time I make one of these, I'll put a photo of him trying to make out with Ivanka side by sidewith the one of her sitting on his lap when she was like 10 years old. I just popped something out in meme-generator and didn't really feel like opening up photoshop to do a whole thing.
Aren't there photos of him being inappropriate with his daughter when she was under age? I swear someone possibly you found some earlier.
I mean, this isn't my first rodeo. I actually tried with those first. All the way back in 2016, actually. It doesn't work. They just pretend there's nothing wrong with them, and that they're "modeling photos".
Was Lemmy even around in 2016? You are talking about completely different communities of people with very different dynamics. It's also true that not nearly as much was publicly known and acknowledged about Trump back in 2016. You're drawing comparisons between situations that while superficially similar are actually quite different.
Yes, the world existed before Lemmy was a thing, and I, being a part of that world, also have experiences I can draw from the before-times.
From a time before time, the long-long-ago.
Sit down, young one, let me spin a tale of fire and water for you. Bask in the wisdom of the ancient ones. We have much to share.
I was also around back in 2016. Lemmy is a niche community. I doubt whatever community you were posting that stuff in was all that similar to this one. As this community is full of anarchists, communists, and social outcasts and radicals of various types. Somewhere mainstream like Reddit is very different, and I say this as someone who has spent significant time in both.
Yes, and I really don't care what you think, bud. People are allowed to enjoy things in different ways.
I post memes for engagement, and specifically to catch the errant cultist that pops up here and there. I live in Texas where they're pretty big on voter suppression. It takes me between 2~4 hours to vote usually, and I know it doesn't matter for statewide elections. I still vote, but honestly it doesn't mean much in the grand scheme of things here. So I figure I'll do my part donating and trying to convert a cultist from voting somewhere else (where it'll matter a bit more) when I feel up to it.
Your opinion pretty much matters zilch to me. I stopped caring about Fartbox the moment I found out he wasn't a cultist. I don't really care about you either.
And that's okay. You are a cutie pie though. You probably shouldn't give me so much to work with if you don't want to give yourself an aneurism. I'm not even being that mean about it. Just... stay away from the IRL comments. You're immediately outing yourself as an unserious person when you go there.
I mean it was very obvious that SatansMagotyCumFart was not a trump follower if you paid any attention to them in the past. You also kept pestering them long after it was obvious they weren't.
I don't live in the USA. I don't want trump to win, but ultimately it's not my decision or my problem if he does or not. If you are trying to weasel out trump followers this isn't really the site to do it as I doubt we have even one in this comment section.
Arguing on the Internet with people from your own side is not how you enact polticial change. Actually talking to people in real life and going on protests will get you a lot further, or even just arguing with the right people.
It's also funny you talk about me giving you material to work with, given everything you have posted here. I am not one for filters, but damn you need to learn to think before you type.