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Works like what? im not getting you.
i dont think pretty white women are worshipped any more than other pretty women other than by Nazis.
either way threads like this reinforce the notion that hot white women are somehow more special than brown or black women. I dont like this.
Thats just me though, maybe someone can argue against my take
Edit: I think i read OP uncharitably.
I think the idea is not that white women are "more special", but instead that they are more powerful in a racist society.
In this situation, a white woman cried racism, and bystanders and staff believed her. Do you think bystanders would consistently give that same level of trust and support if it were a black or brown woman instead?
I'm a white lady, and I know they wouldn't
Thats fine obvioisly i didnt quite understand OP
it’s not about worship, it’s about white women being taken more seriously by white people, who i assume were the majority involved. they’re not special apart from the fact that hegemonic racism treats them as special.
I would still disagree.
I think theres enough sexism around that even a pretty white woman would be told "shut up bitch" or something like that, in fact ive seen it happen at bars multiple times. I dont think being a pretty white woman is some super special key other than to being objectified like every other pretty woman
im glad OPs friend called dude out either way. People are shit heads unfortunately.
There's also the factor where straight dudes really want to help out hot women who are in distress
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Yes, the cocktail of racism and sexism is somewhat unpredictable, but we can say that in OP’s case the pretty white woman was taken more seriously than the black man, and more importantly in this case, not assumed to be violent for racist reasons. There are other situations where the cocktail would work out differently.
Sure i think i just read into Ops post the wrong way.
Half his friend group were women, middle aged at that.
There's a hierarchy with different levels. It usually goes like this, but money makes things a bit more variable and will put you higher up on the totem pole.
White men > white women > colored men > colored women
You can add more demographics but this is the general race relationship that tracks back to early colonial America.
During Jim Crow all it would take for you to lynched is a white woman accusing you of rape if you're a black male.
They're not saying that white women are worshipped, only that people with power take them more seriously, particularly if they're yelling at other people. When a black person (specifically often black men) are confronting white people for being shitty, cops / enforcers are WAAAAAAAY more likely to escalate the situation and make everything worse.
im just saying how the topic came across to me.
Obviously i didnt understand op
You think the structures that enable police brutality extend only to getting shot at by cops? Patriarchy, racism, classism are intertwined to produce this unholy trinity of predictable outcomes that very much exist even though we all wish it weren’t so.
Depends on the freak I guess. My partner is a very very conventionally attractive white woman who looks very eastern euro (blonde hair blue eyes) and I've heard some extremely weird shit from non-nazis. Everything from "beautiful pure skin" to "pure Aryan blood" from random Hispanic dudes. And everything in-between from any mfer.
Not to say I think white women are more "worshipped" than other people, but it definitely fits some people "type" if u know what I mean
i mean of course Nazis and Incels are going to fawn over a white woman. Their core ideology revolves around white women as status symbols.
Me? im in the southern midwest, lighter haired light eyed white women are most of what ive dated.
i guess its just not special to me, and theyre just like any other woman.
I'm not saying you are wrong by any stretch. White women ain't different than anyone else. But people are real fuckin weird out here.