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I don't have a problem with the article. I will say she has an ambitious platform, considering both major parties control both chambers of Congress.
Lemmy has gotten really toxic across instances, in the short time I've been here. The most toxic posts that pop up in my feeds come from world, not hex or ml. I'm not sure how the algo works, or if it's just s general indication of how toxic that insurance really is.
It's easy to be "ambitious" when you stand literally no chance of having to defend or enact your policies. She xan say whatever she wants, because it's actually impossible for a third party to be elected.
She doesn't have a "platform," she has a vague set of ideals that will never need to be thought through past the surface level. Why doesn't Jill participate in local elections? Or senate elections? Or the house? Why does she only come out of her hole to beg for money during the presidential election? She's not looking to actually make change.
I'd agree about world, .ee seem to be close behind in toxicity, and just.works seems to be a brood of right wing talking points.
Really? I'm on that server because it didn't seem so at the time. I only sign in occasionally now, to see if the latency between their servers and my device has improved. But with more users come more issues.
ee or works?
Mea culpa. Just works.
I will say that Lemmy is much more toxic than I had assumed it would be. It's silly that I now have to post a disclaimer anytime I post an article here, but hopefully it can offset some of the long threads of people just saying variations of me being "Putin's personal troll, who's trying to avoid going to the front lines." lmao
I actually like Jill Stein. I was going to vote for her, but then a socialist candidate became available on my state's ballot, so I am voting socialist.
A lot of people criticize Stein, thinking she's just in the race to help Trump win, but I believe she's genuinely committed to her cause. Either way, I don’t think Trump will win the election, regardless of third-party candidates.
If Stein was actually committed to her cause, she would run for more than just president. She's a grifter that sees a fundraising opportunity every 4 years, nothing more.
I respect and support your right to that opinion. I personally don't agree with it. I like her, even tho I am not voting for her.
You certainly don't have to post any disclaimers. No one is reading them anyhow. But the fact that feel the need to do that is evidence that you're doing something wrong.
If everyone criticizes you, that doesn't make you right, in fact it might be an indication you're wrong.
I can see that. But as I’ve mentioned several times, I believe we should focus on discussing the content of the articles posted from here on out, in order to keep with the spirit of this community. Thank you!
My understanding of "the spirit of the community," is defeating fascism. Jill Stein does not fit into that spirit as she has repeatedly failed "the smell test," among many other things (like being photographed dining with Putin and other fascists).
Her "campaign" only ever exists to siphon votes from Democratic candidates and allow the Republican to win.
I honestly hope y'all are literal children, because this isn't a new phenomenon. Many of us old enough to remember have witnessed this kind of candidate show up at just about every presidential election, and they have only ever accomplished one thing. Every single time.
When a third party candidate is a possible threat to the GOP, they always drop out (e.g. RDK Jr.. There is a reason that he didn't keep running despite likely having more votes than Stein.
And my understanding is that the spirit of the community is discussing political news. Hence the name of the community being called "politics" and in the sidebar it literally says, "Welcome to the discussion of US Politics!"
I've been voting since 1988. :)
Then you should be embarrassed. Learn some history.
I'm not embarrassed at all. Thanks.
Yes. Maybe you don't understand what the word "should" means?
Oh I understand what it means. But I'm not. Maybe you don't understand what the word "not" means?
So because you seemed to have legitimate trouble with reading comprehension, let me break it down for you:
I said you "should be embarrassed". That implies that I'm aware of your lack of embarrassment.
Or if that's too complex for you: I know you're not embarrassed, but you should be.
Good. Because I'm not embarrassed. At all.
You know, they say repeating yourself over and over is an early sign of dementia.
Ok. Still doesn't change my opinion. Thank you!
Oh, whoops! I didn't realize we were chatting within the c/noFreeExpression community! Sorry about that!
you’re gaslighting again. people don’t say that, they say that voting third-party is a choice that is likely to lead to result that you don’t want.
And some more:
Do I actually need to post links?! lol
In fact, here is one just today of someone posting a pic of Putin with my name on it: So what was that about gaslighting? I can post PLENTY more examples if you're interested. https://lemmy.world/comment/12208078
You haven't met your downvote quota today. Feelin' ok?
I just posted a news article, friend. I didn't write it. And I’ll keep posting content that fits the community’s guidelines, and if you feel otherwise, the mods are available. Thank you!
I suppose with most of the world population being traumatized to varying degrees, the more that came, the more it was bound to happen. It's quickly turning into a reddit/FB style craptastic place to be, and a lot of users, including mods, are extremely abusive with varying justifications of why their pet flavors of abuse is acceptable, reactionary or otherwise.
I don't know how sincere anyone running is anymore, but it seems excruciatingly obvious that neither of the two major parties have the regular person's interests in mind, other than how to gaslight and abuse them for more labor and more donations. I suspect it's the unavoidable outcome of unbridled, naked capitalism. I've been there. And today I'm not.
I'm sorry to see you treated so badly. I enjoy many of your posts and appreciate that there are other people in the world who seek alternatives to the illusion of alternatives we are presented. I'm not a toddler and I don't care for the blue or red shirt. I want the tie died multicolor, because life isn't black and white, nor varying shades of grey. It's those and unlimited possibilities outside those. Thanks so much for persisting. 🫂
Thank you for the kind words. Now welcome to the same downvote club I am in! lol
Seriously tho, thanks. And what's really telling is that they are this mad just because I post articles. I didn't even write the news and they are this mad! lol
Love that line!
It’s so weird when he talks to himself like this.
You are so welcome, friend. Thank you, and it's fine. I look at how long after the initial recognition that if it's not ok for others to do it to me, then it's not ok for me to do it to others, to actually put in the effort to change, to how quickly i I had a relapse (even to defend, not abuse), to trying it again, and I understand. Not wanting to admit I have behaviors that are just as ugly, then again how long it took me to even work up the courage to try to be better than myself (be best isn't a bad ideal to strive for), I get it. Behaviors that are trauma responses in the beginning become habits become acceptable. I will relapse again. I will try again.
So this is just to say, when I realize how hard it is to honestly look at and control myself, I get how hard it is for my fellow humans, and with practice and persistence, learn to give a little grace. I'm happy to share this journey with a few kind, extremely brave and strong individuals such as yourself. May the force/source/our better services be with us.
Sending you a hug across the ethers. May you be happy and whole.
Thank you! :)
🫂🫂🫂
I really mean every word I said, especially about being honored to share the path with you. Certainly the kingdoms of heaven and hell reside within us.
Bruh...
If this isn't the same person talking to themself from two different accounts... Then I dunno what to say. Maybe meet up IRL cause you're meant to be.