312
submitted 1 week ago by alessandro@lemmy.ca to c/pcgaming@lemmy.ca
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[-] Anivia@feddit.org 11 points 1 week ago

Add 150 for a decent CPU, 40 for 16 GB of memory. Another 80 for a Mainboard for a total of 180+150+40+80=450 USD

You could have at least spent 2 minutes looking up prices instead of making stuff up. A Ryzen 5600 is $110 and a compatible motherboard $50. That CPU outperforms the PS5 and Xbox Series X by a big margin

I'm just saying if you want a rig that outperforms a console, it will be in the 4-digits.

No, you don't. Here is a list that I quickly threw together. It has a much better CPU and GPU than current gen consoles, and 1TB of SSD storage, for "only" $550

PCPartPicker Part List

Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 5 5600 3.5 GHz 6-Core Processor $114.83 @ Amazon
Motherboard ASRock B450M-HDV R4.0 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard $59.99 @ Amazon
Memory G.Skill Aegis 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory $29.99 @ Newegg
Storage TEAMGROUP MS30 1 TB M.2-2280 SATA Solid State Drive $46.99 @ Amazon
Video Card Gigabyte EAGLE Radeon RX 6600 8 GB Video Card $199.97 @ Newegg
Case Thermaltake V100 Perforated ATX Mid Tower Case $47.99 @ Best Buy
Power Supply EVGA 500 W1 500 W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply $47.99 @ Amazon
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total $547.75
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-09-11 10:35 EDT-0400
[-] cows_are_underrated@feddit.org 3 points 1 week ago

Only thing you have to consider is, that a B450 Motherboard isn't out of the box compatible with a Ryzen 5, but an out of the box compatible Motherboard isn't that much more expensive.

[-] SSJMarx@lemm.ee 2 points 1 week ago

You're correct. I think the real obstacle PC gaming has to overcome for the average consumer is the basic knowledge requirement - I built the PC I currently use and game on and yet I find the numbering schemes for processors and graphics cards insanely confusing, have no idea what goes together and what doesn't, what's a good deal and what's overpriced, etc. But while I was willing to put in the research when I built my current computer, I can totally understand someone else who wants something that they can just turn on and it works.

Prebuilts don't really solve this problem either. The average consumer will see something like the "MSI Glaive-Guisarm 2077 Fortnite Edition" and I have no idea if that's better than or worse than or about the same as a PS5.

[-] Realitaetsverlust@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 week ago

Not relevant. Games for consoles are much more optimized because there are just a few configurations.

A PC with similar specs as a console will very likely have worse performance if you compare them.

[-] fruitycoder@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 days ago

You also have less ability to mod the games so you lose out on some of those features. For example doing is level FSR like the steam deck.

[-] Realitaetsverlust@lemmy.zip 1 points 5 days ago

Absolutely, but pls keep in mind that most people do not mod their games

[-] AlphaOmega@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I just built a system: Ryzen 7, 16 GB Ram, NVME SSD, 6680 XT etc. $825 total

[-] Schmuppes@lemmy.today -1 points 1 week ago

That's a 100 dollars more than a PS5 Digital, though.

[-] JoshuaFalken@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

Way to move the goal post on your argument.

[-] Schmuppes@lemmy.today 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

What are you taking about? Your barebones configuration is a hundred dollars more than the standard PS5 years after its initial release. The PS 5 Pro (subject of your link) promises significantly more power than the original model and costs significantly more. You cannot compare that to your bare bones gaming PC. A gaming PC that promises way more bang than your 5600+6600 combo is significantly more expensive than the PS5 Pro.

Your hastily assembled list will maybe do 1080p60 in more recent games, severely limited by the GPU and its 8GB of VRAM. That was good when I got my 430 EUR Vega 56 back in 2017. Today? Not so great.

[-] JoshuaFalken@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

I'm a third party in this chat, not Anivia@feddit.org.

Your initial comment here was pointing out that a component of a computer build is as expensive as an entire console. Valid point, though it does ignore that the component you had in mind is superior to what Sony's put into their machine. It's not really an apples to apples comparison. More like an apple from the grocery compared to picking a basket of apples from an orchard.

You seem to be pointing out that higher performance per dollar is possible with a high end computer. This is correct.

Anivia on the other hand was only saying that for the same money or less as a Playstation 5 Pro, you can get more performance by spending your dollars on a computer instead of a console. This is correct.

You two seem to be saying the same thing: Sony's console is overpriced for what it is, and a better experience can be had going with a pc.

[-] Schmuppes@lemmy.today -3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Anivia on the other hand was only saying that for the same money or less as a Playstation 5 Pro, you can get more performance by spending your dollars on a computer instead of a console. This is correct.

I'd like to argue that you can't get as much or more performance by spending the 700 dollars on a gaming PC. I'd be glad to be proven wrong when the first PS 5 Pro benchmarks are published, however.

[-] Zoot@reddthat.com 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

He just proved it above when he made a pc for 550$. He was using the Ps5 Pro as a standard.

This all boils down to; The Ps5pro is overpriced, and for 200$ cheaper, you could buy a PC that will outperform it.

Not to mention the PS5 doesn't have any exclusives that would make an upgrade worth it.

(Also, huge steam deck fan boy. I've played all the "PS exclusives" on it, easily, for cheaper than a PS, and more ways to enjoy it)

[-] Schmuppes@lemmy.today 1 points 1 week ago

The Ps5pro is overpriced, and for 200$ cheaper, you could buy a PC that will outperform it.

How would you know that?

[-] LordGimp@lemm.ee 2 points 1 week ago

It's this new thing called the "internet" that has all kinds of information on it.

[-] Zoot@reddthat.com 1 points 1 week ago

What lord said, but also its a Ps5, not. PS6. They don't have any games demanding more than what they have.

this post was submitted on 10 Sep 2024
312 points (93.8% liked)

PC Gaming

8248 readers
559 users here now

For PC gaming news and discussion. PCGamingWiki

Rules:

  1. Be Respectful.
  2. No Spam or Porn.
  3. No Advertising.
  4. No Memes.
  5. No Tech Support.
  6. No questions about buying/building computers.
  7. No game suggestions, friend requests, surveys, or begging.
  8. No Let's Plays, streams, highlight reels/montages, random videos or shorts.
  9. No off-topic posts/comments.
  10. Use the original source, no clickbait titles, no duplicates. (Submissions should be from the original source if possible, unless from paywalled or non-english sources. If the title is clickbait or lacks context you may lightly edit the title.)

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS