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I'm not one to post often. I'm not really one to rant to strangers online often, even. But, after migrating from r*ddit to lemmy, I've had this on my mind and this seemed like the place to vent.

I see discourse about tankies constantly on Lemmy. This struck me as odd. Why are these so called tankies such a threat? Why do I see people calling themselves left-wing and attacking tankies more voraciously than neoliberals and, sometimes, even fascists?

I think I know the answer, just as well as most people who will read this. These are the Zizeks of the world: people who do indeed think in a left-wing oriented way, but fail to recognise that they're also Western to the core and the biases that come with that.

I sincerely care about this much less than the actual reason I'm making this post. That is: why don't these people notice that their talking points, left-oriented as they may seem, always end up supporting US allies or attacking US enemies? I mean, do these people not see that Ukraine winning the war is a boon to the US, regardless of who is "right" in that conflict? Many other such cases, but I think I've made my point, or, rather, my confusion, clear.

That's it. That's the post.

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[-] Diva@lemmy.ml 60 points 1 month ago

Ironically this gets twisted in the "campist" argument to be like: "tankies are so fixated on hating America they refuse to support the imperial soul harvester even when it's being careful to pinkwash its crimes"

[-] Cowbee@hexbear.net 47 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Yep, that's the one I see most often. They think that because Leftists nearly always oppose the west, they think that that is the logic behind it. Kinda like gravity, it's incredibly easy to see that it exists, but to explain it? Very difficult, if you aren't trained in Physics! It becomes a thought-terminating cliche, consistent views must mean they are simple, and simple views must be wrong.

Literally what not reading theory does to someone.

[-] Emanuel@lemmy.eco.br 29 points 1 month ago

Also the logic behind "communism no iphone"

[-] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 20 points 1 month ago

Very difficult, if you aren't trained in Physics

Very difficult to explain even if you are trained in physics tbh ๐Ÿ˜”

[-] Cowbee@hexbear.net 13 points 1 month ago

(I'm not trained in enough physics to know, shhhh) i-love-not-thinking

[-] Acute_Engles@hexbear.net 11 points 1 month ago

Thing dense = suck, the more denser it is the more suck it does. Barring, i assume, some exceptions.

I didn't go to college but I'll take my physics degree now

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