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submitted 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) by ptz@dubvee.org to c/fediverse@lemmy.world

Over the past 5-6 months, I've been noticing a lot of new accounts spinning up that look like this format:

  • https://instance.xyz/u/gmbpjtmt
  • https://instance.xyz/u/tjrwwiif
  • https://instance.xyz/u/xzowaikv

What are they doing?

They're boosting and/or downvoting mostly, if not exclusively, US news and politics posts/comments to fit their agenda.

Edit: Could also be manipulating other regional news/politics, but my instance is regional and doesn't subscribe to those which limits my visibility into the overall manipulation patterns.

What do these have in common?

  1. Most are on instances that have signups without applications (I'm guessing the few that are on instances with applications may be from before those were enabled since those are several months old, but just a guess; they could have easily just applied and been approved.)
  2. Most are random 8-character usernames (occasionally 7 or 9 characters)
  3. Most have a common set of users they're upvoting and/or downvoting consistently
  4. No posts/comments
  5. No avatar or bio (that's pretty common in general, but combine it with the other common attributes)
  6. Update: Have had several anonymous reports (thanks!) that these users are registering with an @sharklasers.com email address which is a throwaway email service.

What can you, as an instance admin, do?

Keep an eye on new registrations to your instance. If you see any that fit this pattern, pick a few (and a few off this list) and see if they're voting along the same lines. You can also look in the login_token table to see if there is IP address overlap with other users on your instance and/or any other of these kinds of accounts.

You can also check the local_user table to see if the email addresses are from the same provider (not a guaranteed way to match them, but it can be a clue) or if they're they same email address using plus-addressing (e.g. user+whatever@email.xyz, user+whatever2@emai.xyz, etc).

Why are they doing this?

Your guess is as good as mine, but US elections are in a few months, and I highly suspect some kind of interference campaign based on the volume of these that are being spun up and the content that's being manipulated. That, or someone, possibly even a ghost or an alien life form, really wants the impression of public opinion being on their side. Just because I don't know exactly why doesn't mean that something fishy isn't happening that other admins should be aware of.

Who are the known culprits?

These are ones fitting that pattern which have been identified. There are certainly more, but these have been positively identified. Some were omitted since they were more garden-variety "to win an argument" style manipulation.

These all seem to be part of a campaign. This list is by no means comprehensive, and if there are any false positives, I do apologize. I've tried to separate out the "garden variety" type from the ones suspected of being part of a campaign, but may have missed some.

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[New: 9/18/2024]: https://thelemmy.club/u/ththygij
[New: 9/18/2024]: https://ttrpg.network/u/umwagkpn
[New: 9/18/2024]: https://lemdro.id/u/dybyzgnn
[New: 9/18/2024]: https://lemmy.cafe/u/evtmowdq
https://leminal.space/u/mpiaaqzq
https://lemy.lol/u/ihuklfle
https://lemy.lol/u/iltxlmlr
https://lemy.lol/u/szxabejt
https://lemy.lol/u/woyjtear
https://lemy.lol/u/jikuwwrq
https://lemy.lol/u/matkalla
https://lemmy.ca/u/vlnligvx
https://ttrpg.network/u/kmjsxpie
https://lemmings.world/u/ueosqnhy
https://lemmings.world/u/mx_myxlplyx
https://startrek.website/u/girlbpzj
https://startrek.website/u/iorxkrdu
https://lemy.lol/u/tjrwwiif
https://lemy.lol/u/gmbpjtmt
https://thelemmy.club/u/avlnfqko
https://lemmy.today/u/blmpaxlm
https://lemy.lol/u/xhivhquf
https://sh.itjust.works/u/ntiytakd
https://jlai.lu/u/rpxhldtm
https://sh.itjust.works/u/ynvzpcbn
https://lazysoci.al/u/sksgvypn
https://lemy.lol/u/xzowaikv
https://lemy.lol/u/yecwilqu
https://lemy.lol/u/hwbjkxly
https://lemy.lol/u/kafbmgsy
https://discuss.online/u/tcjqmgzd
https://thelemmy.club/u/vcnzovqk
https://lemy.lol/u/gqvnyvvz
https://lazysoci.al/u/shcimfi
https://lemy.lol/u/u0hc7r
https://startrek.website/u/uoisqaru
https://jlai.lu/u/dtxiuwdx
https://discuss.online/u/oxwquohe
https://thelemmy.club/u/iicnhcqx
https://lemmings.world/u/uzinumke
https://startrek.website/u/evuorban
https://thelemmy.club/u/dswaxohe
https://lemdro.id/u/efkntptt
https://lemy.lol/u/ozgaolvw
https://lemy.lol/u/knylgpdv
https://discuss.online/u/omnajmxc
https://lemmy.cafe/u/iankglbrdurvstw
https://lemmy.ca/u/awuochoj
https://leminal.space/u/tjrwwiif
https://lemy.lol/u/basjcgsz
https://lemy.lol/u/smkkzswd
https://lazysoci.al/u/qokpsqnw
https://lemy.lol/u/ncvahblj
https://ttrpg.network/u/hputoioz
https://lazysoci.al/u/lghikcpj
https://lemmy.ca/u/xnjaqbzs
https://lemy.lol/u/yonkz

Edit: If you see anyone from your instance on here, please please please verify before taking any action. I'm only able to cross-check these against the content my instance is aware of.

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[-] Carrolade@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

So you starve them. See how that works? There's a small amount of food aid getting in, that's how they're not all dead yet. You cut that lifeline.

Anyways, still not seeing how Biden is the reason it is happening.

Also, I find it funny that you suddenly believe the IDF when they say something you think might be convenient.

[-] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world -4 points 2 months ago

Israel gets all their rockets and bombs from America. They would fully be out of interceptors to stop Hezbollah and even Hamas.

Israel is entirely dependent on foreign supplies for their advanced weapon production. They have R&D but little production facilities

[-] Carrolade@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

Yes, we are helping protect Israel, no question about it. We have treaties with them. Hopefully they come to their senses and throw out Netanyahu soon, the protests against him have gotten pretty fucking huge recently. I'm less hopeful on that one though, just keeping my fingers crossed.

[-] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world -5 points 2 months ago
[-] Carrolade@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

It's a good pressure mechanism, but again, it wouldn't save Gazans unless used strategically. Machine guns and bulldozers could eliminate them all, fancy bombs are not needed. It's a tightrope walk.

They don't actually need interceptors either, incidentally. Netanyahu gives no shits about his people, if a few thousand die in rocket strikes, I doubt he cares if he gets Gaza in the end.

Oh, and we don't actually supply all their stuff btw, just a lot of it.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defense_industry_of_Israel

[-] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world -2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Go read the article I linked earlier from Haaretz.

You clearly did not.

Also look up who supplies those dozers lmao.

[-] Carrolade@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

That article quotes an IDF officer, whom you just believe all of a sudden, just because he says something convenient to you. This is very foolish, he is an officer participating in a war, and will say what he needs to or is ordered to say.

Bulldozers can be purchased in many places, they are not difficult to build.

edit: Oh, and I almost forgot, but Israel imports more from China than it does the US, as of the latest data I can find.

https://oec.world/en/visualize/tree_map/hs92/import/isr/show/all/2022

[-] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world -2 points 2 months ago

Yes IDF officers admitting their own countries shortcomings is slightly different than spreading propaganda. The officer very clearly states that almost all weapons are made in America.

Your second link is not about weapons nor D9 armored bulldozers. Unless you are implying China is selling interceptor missiles on Aliexpress.

[-] Carrolade@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

Yes, they get a lot of weapons from us, no question. It is very advantageous for them to do so. The question is, do they have to? You seem to think yes, but have no evidence to support that. Nor does it make any sense, except with regards to the most advanced weapons.

Plenty of other countries manage to get weapons without getting them from the US.

Do the bulldozers need to be armored to do work enabling the genocide of Gazans? No, right? You cannot seem to distinguish optional things from requirements. Necessities from conveniences. Why is this?

[-] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world -2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Hezbollah and Iran exists thats why. You are still stuck in the israeli power fantasy. It's a miniscule player that is worthless without external backing.

Israel runs on an abundance of high tech weapons imported from overseas. They are worthless in their tanks.

[-] Carrolade@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

They won several wars in their early history, before getting an advanced air force, on the back of heavy infantry casualties. Again, you have no evidence.

What would a rocket barrage do? Kill tons of Israelis. Would that defeat the IDF somehow? We learned in WW2 that you can level cities, but the country will fight on. What can Iran do asides fire missiles? March through the two countries in the way?

I am not the one living in fantasy. I am not the one just conveniently believing dumb shit spoonfed to me for someone's political purposes.

[-] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world -2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

They won their previous wars with an abundance imported external weapons even the earliest ones.

And they got defeated by Hezbollah and Egypt when the weapons stopped.

I recommend you read up on what the actual history is instead of this retold israeli power fantasy.

[-] Carrolade@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

Ooh, fascinating. Name me when Hezbollah and Egypt defeated them.

[-] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world -2 points 2 months ago

Instead of trying to pivot to a different subject every time you are wrong you'd be best off reading the first article I linked.

[-] Carrolade@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

I've already said, I don't give a shit what an IDF officer says. I actually know better than to listen to military messaging. Yes they get weapons from us, but do they have to or are there other ways on planet Earth to get weapons asides buying from the US?

Still waiting for your Egyptian victory.

Perhaps you were talking about Yom Kippur, where if I recall Egypt and one other country (not Hezbollah) launched a surprise attack with the aid of advanced kit from the USSR, gained some ground and then were beaten back?

Quit believing dumb propaganda

this post was submitted on 12 Sep 2024
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