I mean, I think religion is stupid but they’re still people, none of them should be subject to genocide and neither side is ever going to stop fighting because religion.

If this is your analysis of why the Israeli State is commiting genocide via settler-colonialism and why Palestinians are fighting against it, legitimately believing religion to be the driving factor, you were never doing any kind of Materialist analysis and thus at minimum reject the core of Marxism.

As far as Israel’s founding, yeah fine I’m not that old afaic the world fucked up by letting Israel happen but once they’re all there what now?

Well, there is (or was) continuous immigration to Israel from various other (almost exclusively white) countries as part of the project of continuous growth to settle new territory. A lot of them can just go back to their home country and a number already have on at least a temporary basis because of the war.

For the sake of argument we can say there are recent settlers who really cannot go back, and for them the answer is to rehouse them, since obviously no one here wants genocide, that's just a Zionist myth.

But it should be the duty of the founders and masters of Israel, those being the US and UK, to rehouse Israelis in their borders. The same should go for other major sponsors of the Zionist project, like Canada, Australia, and of course Germany. All of these countries (especially America) can afford to do so.

That wouldn't eliminate the Jewish population, but the goal has never been to eliminate the Jewish population.

I mean, I think religion is stupid but

They're much more of an ethnostate than a theocracy, though they have features of both

neither side is ever going to stop fighting because religion.

You are severely misunderstanding the lines of the conflict, but you're misunderstanding them in exactly the way you were told to by the neoliberal media trying to both sides a conflict that was always, always a settler-colonial state trying to exterminate and replace the indigenous Palestinian population. The Palestinians are not fighting to exterminate Jews, they are fighting to destroy the settler-colony that ousted them from most of their land. There's no shortage of evidence of Palestinian society being basically pluralist, allowing Christian churches to stand for centuries (until Israel bombed them) and taking care of Jewish graveyards and so on.

It is not a religious war, it's a colonialist war.

What do you think a relationship between Trump 2.0 and Netanyahu looks like? You care about Palestinians and you want to risk a second Trump term?

I think Biden was already fully supporting Bibi. Trump can't "fully support him but even more now".

Ok dude, if you define a liberal as someone that is voting for a dem instead of bending over for the immediate threat of literal fascism… you got me

Fascism was already here you comfortable suburbanite scumbag. Fascism was already here in the way cops gun down my people in the streets, in their front yards, in their fucking beds. Fascism was already here in the MILLIONS of carceral slaves that Amerika has profited off of since the thirteenth amendment was shifted around to enshrine slavery instead of abolish it. Fascism was already here when DEMOCRATS erected the literal CONCENTRATION CAMPS at our southern border!

And you only want to talk about it now???? When finally it has the chance to affect you? You disgust me.

As far as Israel’s founding, yeah fine I’m not that old afaic the world fucked up by letting Israel happen but once they’re all there what now?

Considering it's Amerika that's been arming them and Amerika that's been abetting them, why not give them a big old chunk of wherever's got the most old white settlers to disturb.

So my question is how does voting for Jill stein make any of that better?

It signals that genocide is a non-starter and that there's still a chunk of the populace that has enough principle to still be considered an empathetic and decent human being.

What do you think a relationship between Trump 2.0 and Netanyahu looks like? You care about Palestinians and you want to risk a second Trump term?

Shut the fuck up. You did not care about Palestine before right now; you liberals are fucking shameless with that play. Frankly, I see no difference between Trump, Biden, or Harris. All empty-save-their-racism suits to carry out the capitalist neo-imperial agenda. Way I see it? Amerika deserves everything that happens to it next, for aiding and abetting these monsters. Votescolding poli-cel ass.