Well, that's not what the pope is saying when people ask him about it

Asked by CBS News what he would advise a Catholic voter forced to choose between a candidate who backs abortion rights and one who has said he would have 11 million migrants deported, the pope said: "They are both against life — the one who throws away migrants and the one who kills children."

Francis also reiterated the Catholic Church's position that abortion is murder.

"Whether you like the word or not, it is a killing," he said. "It is an assassination, and on this we should be clear."