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ISO 8601 or bust.
This.
I can handle DDMMYY[YY] it reads correctly. But YYYYMMDD is numerically correct, most signifcant to least significant digitwise.
That thing only American's do, is completely non-sensical.
For sorting or filing, I agree. I think in day to day life, though, Day and month are way more significant. So I actually prefer DDMMYYYY for that.
DDMMYYYY would be great, if it weren't for 95% of Americans that use MMDDYYYY. Is 07/02/2000 July 2nd or Feb 7th?
Thus the only solution is to write out the month or start with the year, because no logical group of people currently use YYYYDDMM. Plus by using YYYYMMDD you get the added benefit of the dates all being sortable using dumber applications.
You are saying it like if MMDDYYYY made any sense. To someone who uses MMDDYYYY daily, they could think of YYYYMMDD as "Its like the usual but backwards" and now you have a group of people reading it as YYYYDDMM.
You could convince a group of people to use YYYYDDMM, but what I mean is nobody currently uses it. So at this moment of time YYYYMMDD is intuitive, and has a miniscule chance of being mixed up like DDMMYYYY and MMDDYYYY (because a large number of people use these formats).
Please don't convince Americans to use YYYYDDMM lol. :-)
Makes sense, I just mostly interact with Europeans, so I don't encounter this problem a lot. I really don't have a problem with YYYYMMDD though anyway.
It's because that's how we talk. We say October 5th, not the 5th of October.
English people say October 5th. Spanish people say 5 de Octubre. Same for other languages. That's probably why Europeans prefer the other format.
Yeah I was talking about Americans specifically
I still prefer yyyymmdd for day to day. If year is irrelevant just skip it. If you only use a date format you get used to it and it becomes the most efficient one due to consistency. Sidenote, in my language the default date format is actually yyyymmdd.
I absolutely loath the American favorite: 8/9. Like fuck, is that August 9th, September 8th, or just a fraction??
Dd MMM YYYY
It is sensical for one use:
"So when is the event?"
"May 20th, 2024"
It's such a niche use, though
I think that's because you're used to hearing dates said that way? Over here in DDMMYY-land, we often would say "20th of May, 2024" and that sounds equally sensical to me tbh
And in a lot of countries they just say 20 May, 2024. So no ordinal numbers for the day.
You mean the 20th of May?
20th in 5th in the year of our lord 2023
Americans always put the month first.
E.g. July 4th.
Except when we don't, like 4th of July...
I know you've been bashed already by others, but could you elaborate on why this is sensical?
In a, "Alright I guess that technically works and at least can follow the logic". It's pretty damn niche, however (who is going to ask for two or more years in advanced for a date and not go, "Just text/email it"? Heck, even this is pushing it, but I can at least follow the logic)
Could be that I'm slightly fucking up definitions in my head, it was a long day yesterday
In what way is it sensible?
I get that you prefer saying it like that, just because you're used to it. It is conventional but definitely in no way sensible.
In that it at least has a use that one can go, "Alright I guess that technically works"
8601 for life
I expected to see this when I looked at the comments, and you didn't disappoint me!
So glad this is the default in Japan. ๐ฏ๐ต ๐
That one for file sorting, the one in the pic for everything else.
Sorry, in Linux everything is a file, so there is no "everything else."
Life extends beyond Linux, though. I was speaking in general terms.
No, YYYY-MM-DD is fine for real life. Just drop the year when it doesn't matter. Billions of people use this format.
Beautiful
So if you communicate with someone you will specify the date in the year 2023 september 23rd we shall meet and not 23rd of september ๐ง