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More than a dozen former Ronald Reagan staff members have joined dozens of other Republican figures endorsing the Democratic nominee and vice-president, Kamala Harris, saying their support was “less about supporting the Democratic party and more about our resounding support for democracy”.

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[-] MisterScruffy@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 month ago

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brooks_Brothers_riot

If the law had been followed Florida in 2000 would've done to gore.

Things went back to "business as usual" because the people who stole the election WON and successfully got control of the country, and what they did with that power was start 2 wars and murder a million+ people in the middle east and legitimize torture. That is worse than anything trump has done.

The damage that reagan/bush/cheney did to this country and to the world is incalculable. The dems disagree with me on this and that's why I'm not a dem and I can't support the dems

[-] Makeitstop@lemmy.world -2 points 1 month ago

I'm not hear to defend Bush v Gore, the Bush administration, Republicans, Democrats, or anything else.

Fuck it, ok, fine, Bush v Gore was worse. So what? Unless you have a time machine, there isn't anything we can do about that. But Trump poses a threat right now, one which will get much worse if he manages to get back into power. That can still be prevented. If the price that comes at is the knowledge that a few loathsome individuals agreed with millions of people like me on this one narrow choice, that's a small price to pay.

[-] CooperRedArmyDog@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago

We could expect Harris to denoucne the endorsements and tell them to F-off instead of reveling in the ensorsements, that would be a start

[-] MisterScruffy@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 month ago

https://lemmy.ml/post/20396714/13736665

The long term effects of voting "lesser of 2 evils" pushes everyone to the right.

I'm not willing to get pushed anymore, if you are then just accept that you're center-right or far-right at this point. I'm not, I'm a leftist and I'm going to stay a leftist

[-] Makeitstop@lemmy.world -1 points 1 month ago

The long term effects of authoritarians consolidating their power and eliminating the last remnants of democracy and the rule of law is that it no longer matters if any of us are left or right. I'll take having a system that can still be changed over being trapped in under dictatorial rule but taking comfort in the fact that I've remained ideologically pure.

And no, choosing the best viable candidate doesn't just lead inevitably to a shift to the right. If that were the case, we wouldn't be talking about people on the right endorsing someone to their left. The fact that Democrats have chosen electable candidates when Republicans chose Trump loyalists and MAGA nutcases is the main reason why Republicans have underperformed since 2018, and why they keep sabotaging their own efforts fighting with their own party members. Their most recent victories are largely due to courts they packed with right wing judges, something that will only get worse if they win, but which will be gradually undone if they lose.

But this is an argument that's always raging on this site. That particular dead horse has been reduced to a fine paste. I doubt anyone's going to be swayed at this point.

[-] MisterScruffy@lemmy.ml -2 points 1 month ago

If that were the case, we wouldn’t be talking about people on the right endorsing someone to their left.

Harris isnt to the left of Reagan or cheney, thats my point

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