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I read all the definitions of antisemitism on your link and am not seeing the issue?
Usual propaganda from pro-genocide people: considering that Israel is the whole Jewish world so any kind of critics towards them can be tagged as antisemitism.
If you don't like being compared to Nazis, maybe stop doing things that Nazis would do? Such as an ethnic cleansing?
Idk, just an idea...
You're right, it's more like a genocide. After all, they're just bombing everything indiscriminately, starving people to death, blocking humanitarian aid and occupying illegally territories that don't belong to them.
Not to mention that they basically shot to kill everyone they find, be it an UN worker, a child or an US citizen protesting.
But hey, god forbid we criticise what those bastards do, we wouldn't like to be called antisemitic...
Fuck Netanyahu, fuck his government and fuck everyone supporting what they are doing in Gaza.
I'm pretty sure that if we're not seeing more deaths it is because the international community would have trouble trying to justify it. But not because Netanyahu doesn't want it.
They abuse Palestinians in their jails, they kill children, they attack refugee camps... All because "Hamas was hiding there". I'm sorry but no. There's a limit to what you can do. And Israel is surpassing it by far. They are not only killing, they are razing cities, they are basically making Gaza uninhabitable and they are blocking humanitarian aid (when they're not directly destroying it), so yeah, they are trying to starve people.
Eh... Yes?
If you raze their towns making them effectively uninhabitable and then declare those zones "a war zone" while you also block any effort to reconstruct and allow people to occupy those territories, you're expelling them from their land.
Then you shouldn't mind of Israelites were forced to uproot and move to another part of Israel in order to respect the border as it was agreed back when the State was created, right? I mean, Israelites being forcibly moved inside Israel shouldn't be a problem if it's not a problem to do the same thing to Gazans...
So what you're saying is that people can freely return to their homes in Gaza city?
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/longform/2024/4/18/satellite-images-reveal-israeli-destruction-of-hospitals-in-gaza
Where and what do they return to after those temporary evacuations?
Right, and obviously you think there's no cost or trauma associated with it, so when Hamas does the same thing in Israel your reaction is "Houses can be rebuilt", right?
Right, and nobody else will be motivated to attack Israelis after coming home to an obliterated home with their dead family inside.
There, fixed it for you.
In fact, almost all Palestinians in Gaza have been forcibly displaced
True, but not a good thing. The Israeli apartheid regime is basically moving Gazans around inside an open air prison in between the murder and the theft and destruction of those things necessary for people to live.
That's NOT what Israel is doing. They're constantly DIRECTING military force at civilians
Weird that you'd include this in DEFENSE of Israel since that's what they're constantly doing. Hell, sometimes they'll even force civilians into a so-called "safe zone" and then bomb that area!
Is it opposite day already? Or just the Zionist Day of Projection, which is every day that ends in a y?
A zone is by definition not safe if it contains a military objective. That's so obvious that it's frankly embarrassing for both of us that I have to point it out to you.
Would be if it wasn't horseshit. The IDF claims phantom militants everywhere they bomb. In the vast majority of cases, there's no legitimate military target.
According to the IDF, an organization synonymous with concocting falsehoods to excuse deliberate targeting of civilians.
Even if they WEREN'T lying about there being Hamas bases there, bombing a hospital or a school or a refugee camp would STILL be a war crime.
Nobody's forcing Israel to kill civilians. Israel is TARGETING civilians, with the "bases" made up afterwards and never proven to exist in the vast majority of cases.
Yes, it most certainly is. Forgetting for a second that there's hardly ever any hostiles there, bombing civilians is a war crime.
Imagine for a second that, unbeknownst to you, the guy who lives in the apartment below yours is a terrorist. Would that make it acceptable for your government to reduce the entire block to rubble, killing you and every other civilian in the process?
I say no, and so does international law.
I could say the same to you, but your reading comprehension and willingness to embarrass yourself to excuse Apartheid and genocide seem to be inversely proportional.
I'll not be engaging further as you are clearly arguing in bad faith, incapable of understanding any information that doesn't conform with the Hasbara gaslighting you spread like an infection, or both.
Have the day you deserve.
You have done nothing BUT come up with excuses for the genocide and Apartheid system of Israel.
Now leave me alone and have the day you deserve like I said.
Israel is a State, not people, you can hate it all you want, it doesn't make you racist.
Israel is a sham democracy floated by endless US weapons, don't worry I hate the US too, and pretty much every other state is slightly lower in my shit list because they're not actively exterminating people for their settlers right now
Israel is a State, racism is towards people. The State of Israel doesn't represent the opinion of all Jews, I've got no problem with Jews who don't support the State of Israel, I've got a problem with Jews and anyone else who does.
By your logic most of the world was racist towards Americans from 2016 to 2020.
It's the rhetoric used by those who want to be seen as victims. They pretend that you associate the state with the totality of the people forming it. That way it's easier to control the narrative. And if you look closely, it's the same they are trying to do with the "Palestine=Hamas" bullshit.
If you hate Israel, according to them, you hate the whole Jewish world. It's easier that way to create the "with me or against me" rhetoric.
Yeah and clearly you assume that people do the former when they're doing the latter, like in the OP
No, it's an illustration of the fact that Israel gets away with war crimes and a comparison to something that is of historical significance to Israelites to show the hypocrisy.
They (and you) don't get to use the racism card to get out of being criticized or compared.
That's like saying, "It's fine to say that you just hate the government of Nazi Germany, but if that's the only nation state you hate, it means you're racist against Germans." What?
I hate every apartheid state with equal intensity, however, since South Africa ended their system of apartheid, that just leaves Israel. I suppose if Israel's system of apartheid was ended first and South Africa's remained, it would mean I was racist against white people or something. Funny how who I'm "racist" towards is entirely dependant on who's doing apartheid.
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