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So because I am white and a male, I guess you can't say anything about what it means to be male without that applying to white women too? Do you actually speak English or what?
I have no clue what you're trying to say. How many women are men?
Exactly zero, because (excluding certain trans identities for the purpose of simplification) there is no intersection between the two groups. Talking about what it means to be a men doesn't involve a single woman, therefore it doesn't apply to them.
Hating a primarily queer subgroup has very much homophobic implications, the same way the war on drugs is obviously racist:
The analogy was straightforward. My whiteness apparently makes me the same as every other white person. You're trying to find something that isn't here, at all
"I don't hate group ABC. I just hate group XYZ that happens to be almost solely composed of members of ABC."
Next you will be arguing why hating blues, jazz and rap with every fibre of your being isn't racist.
And to further show why your analogy doesn't work:
P(Person being white | Person being male) = P(Person being white).
Being white and being male is unrelated and separate (<=> statistically independent), unlike being a furry and being queer which is actually related as mentioned earlier.