1597
submitted 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) by Allonzee@lemmy.world to c/microblogmemes@lemmy.world

Did I say mandatory? I meant optional! You're "free" to die in a cardboard box under a freeway as a market capitalist scarecrow warning to the other ants so they keep showing up to make us more!

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[-] thewebroach@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

So with a 401k loan, which is kind of this, you are limited to borrowing against it by like only up to 50% of its face value due to factors such as market volatility. And then all payments made to that loan are with alreaey taxed income, so you aren't securing money in any way that dodges taxation.

Also using shareholdings is no different from using a house or property as collateral... property equity has unrealized value until it is sold too. One might argue you pay property taxes on that equity, but ideally, the company behind the stocks you own pays property taxes for its ownings annually, so that's still happening. So the real problem is large companies dodging taxes due to exploiting broken tax code loopholes.

[-] thewebroach@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Also, i think income tax is double taxation. Businesses are the key market players in an economy so why not orient all taxation around them? Do away with personal income tax and property tax. Keep/increase sales tax, luxury tax, sin tax. And clamp the largest salary in a company to be allowed no more than 20x the average salary in the company to address wage disparities. If the CEO deserves a 1 mil bonus, the average employee deserves at least a 50k bonus. Also, no worker's rate can be paid less than 1/20th the salary than the average employee. The more spread out the dollars are, the better it is for the economy.

[-] EatATaco@lemm.ee 1 points 2 months ago

You can't use a 401k as collateral for a loan.

[-] thewebroach@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago
[-] EatATaco@lemm.ee 2 points 2 months ago

That's not using it as collateral. That's taking money out of it that you have to pay back to yourself. That means you'll lose out on the growth in the markets that the people using their investments as collateral don't lose.

this post was submitted on 19 Sep 2024
1597 points (96.8% liked)

Microblog Memes

5846 readers
869 users here now

A place to share screenshots of Microblog posts, whether from Mastodon, tumblr, ~~Twitter~~ X, KBin, Threads or elsewhere.

Created as an evolution of White People Twitter and other tweet-capture subreddits.

Rules:

  1. Please put at least one word relevant to the post in the post title.
  2. Be nice.
  3. No advertising, brand promotion or guerilla marketing.
  4. Posters are encouraged to link to the toot or tweet etc in the description of posts.

Related communities:

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS