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[-] walden@sub.wetshaving.social 53 points 4 hours ago

That's good. The article talks about how K9's should be handled with the legalization of weed. Should they be retired if they still respond to weed, etc.

Of course K9's aren't trained to actually smell anything. They're just trained to respond to an officers command, giving police the freedom to search any vehicle they please.

[-] Feathercrown@lemmy.world -3 points 2 hours ago

Of course K9’s aren’t trained to actually smell anything

Can we stop with the conspiracy theories please? This is just stupid.

[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml 25 points 2 hours ago

It's a fact that they have an extremely high false-positive rate. Whether that's intentional or not doesn't change the fact that it serves law enforcement's interests.

[-] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 3 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

I suppose that's true, but that doesn't mean that they don't smell anything. Your conclusion may be correct, but your initial claim isn't, and that's something I'm seeing on lemmy more than I'd like to.

[-] Scubus@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 hour ago

He didn't say they don't smell anything. He said they're trained to respond to their handler. What he said is true. Even if it's not what they're intentionally training, it is a verifiable fact that most k9s respond more to their handlers body language than to any actual substance they're smelling.

[-] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 3 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Of course K9’s aren’t trained to actually smell anything

He didn’t say they don’t smell anything

Anyways, I wasn't able to find data on police K9 units. I found this which has some good data with references further down the page, but it's pretty far from a field environment. Do you have a study ("verifiable fact") that has this data?

[-] Scubus@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 hour ago

they are not trained to smell

but that doesn't mean they don't smell anything

These are two different statements saying different things. Yes, police dogs often have noses that function. No, police dogs often do not require their noses in order to get the response the handler is wanting.

And I was specifically referring to US k9s, but here are polish dogs. Their efficacy in cars, which is what I was referring to although did not explicitly state, is only 57%. Im still looking at other sources to find a more reliable, hopefully first hand, study.

[-] Wrufieotnak@feddit.org 1 points 27 minutes ago* (last edited 24 minutes ago)

The question wasn't about the efficacy of dogs but about the "only respond to handler" part and you didn't provide a source for that.

Edit: another comment provided a study for that.

[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 hour ago
[-] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

Ah yeah, sorry bout that. Replace "your" with "their" then

[-] EvacuateSoul@lemmy.world -1 points 1 hour ago

They're actually remote-controlled, not real dogs.

[-] ImplyingImplications@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 hour ago

There was a study done where police K9 units where told they'd be testing the accuracy of the dog's ability to find drugs. In actually, they were testing the handlers. Handlers were told drugs were hidden in a certain location, but there wasn't actually drugs there. Despite that, all their dogs alerted several times to the location the handlers were told about.

[-] walden@sub.wetshaving.social 5 points 1 hour ago

No, you're right. I do believe they're trained to detect things, and thought about editing it, but I stuck with the poor wording.

[-] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 3 points 1 hour ago

I appreciate this, apologies for sounding a bit hostile

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