this post was submitted on 21 Sep 2024
220 points (98.7% liked)
Piracy: ꜱᴀɪʟ ᴛʜᴇ ʜɪɢʜ ꜱᴇᴀꜱ
54746 readers
184 users here now
⚓ Dedicated to the discussion of digital piracy, including ethical problems and legal advancements.
1. Posts must be related to the discussion of digital piracy
2. Don't request invites, trade, sell, or self-promote
3. Don't request or link to specific pirated titles, including DMs
4. Don't submit low-quality posts, be entitled, or harass others
Loot, Pillage, & Plunder
📜 c/Piracy Wiki (Community Edition):
💰 Please help cover server costs.
founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
Wait, people pay for that?
I pay for that, because YouTube and YouTube Music is the main source of media for me And my family and I have no issue with paying for a service that I use a lot. And paying for that is so much easier then investing huge amounts of time into searching for and maintaining alternative Players and Tools for all the different devices where I (and my family) consume YouTube and YouTube Music. My limited time is more valuable for me then the price for the service.
I can understand if you want to pay. But don't say it's hard to block ads when all you need is uBlock origin installed... And that's it. It's literally a 15 seconds job for the rest of the life of your browser.
Remember that many people they don't consume YouTube primarily in a browser
and once you are on 4k teevee, i see no issue paying for that quality.
i have an issue with being data mined while paying tho...
And how do I install uBlock origin into my living room television? How into the YouTube app on my Chromecast? Sure I could use Firefox on that but that will break any chance of sending YouTube videos from a phone to the Chromecast, so not really a valid option. How into the PS5? How install it into any kind of mobile apple device? How into all kinds of mobile YouTube music applications? Yes, it is easy when the only way to consume YouTube is via Webbrowser and even that gets more and more complicated whenever google changes something to block ad blockers.
I understand. But that should make you automatically realise that you should give that old fat/broken laptop a chance to be plugged into your TV. Put a 10 $ remote mini keyboard there and no one will touch the TV interface again.
And how does that help with any of the questions I asked? It may be a possibility but it is neither easy, nor comfortable, and it takes way more time to keep that up to date then it is worth. It may be great for you, maybe you are young or alone or have for whatever reason else time to waste on that. I pay and have it work on every device without any further work or time investment. It just works!
That's the thing, for me, it's too much money every month for a one-time setup and maybe 15 minutes maintenance every 3 months. But if you feel it's still worth it, go for it.
All of this, and more, is quite simply defined in easy to follow steps on a site or two.
Are you asking genuinely or just listing off questions? Do you have 30mins to sit down and focus on setting up ALL of the above? Personally, I think you owe it to yourself and your family to at least try. 🖖🏽
Yes and I have to do that on every device, and when it breaks I have to invest time to look it up, maybe have to wait for days before updated tools are available then install those on all the devices again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, for infinity. It is such a waste of time in my eyes, myself and my time is worth more then that.
I pay for yt family premium and Netflix but use neither of them on a regular basis.
My nephews grew up with a pretty shitty life. They don't have a lot of fun things they can do in their situation. I figured the least I could do is give them YouTube music and some access to watch TV and movies on Netflix wherever they happen to be.
It's the same reason my steam family is chock full of games I'll never play.
This is the same for me and my family. It's such a great feature to have and worth not seeing ads. I feel like supporting the platforms I use is important to me.
As I said in a previous post, people are afraid of pirating, so they prefer higher prices if it is a "safe" method.
I wouldn't call it pirating... More like... I receive the video, but the ads were unfortunately lost on the way....
People need education.
bootlickers love theirs chains, they won' be saved but younger folk have a chance to break the cycle of abuse
Sadly a lot of young people are taught nothing but convenience and ignorance. I'm the only one in any of my friend circles that says anything against these practices. All of my friends, from different walks of life just shrug me off.
Well maybe next generation then... Or maybe we are destitined to be enslaved due to herd mentality.
I agree, but as long as corporations like YouTube, Nintendo and Hollywood exist and people have this "normal" mentality, they will hardly be willing to be truly educated about it.
And there's the sad truth of it. Best we can do is those few of us who care enough to be educated do our best to make what we do hurt those scum suckers where it hurts them the most.
Or people actually earn enough not to give two flying fucks about 10$ a month and want to support their content creators and the platform that enables them.
Why are they "afraid"?
Because that's part of the consumer model. See: religion.
In religion, people are:
How exactly is YouTube doing that?
Zoom out; Youtube is not consumerism, and religion predates currency by a long shot. Fear is its original seed.
If you're making a correlation, I fail to understand it. Can you dumb it down?
People tend to be afraid of the unknown — generally agreed to be symptomatic of the awareness of one's own mortality (some, less consciously than others). And, as the saying goes, "necessity is the mother of invention". Our prehistoric forebears came up with their own reasons why otherwise inexplicable things happened, and how — the real lucky shamans landed a "when" here and there, no doubt....
But, where that galvanizing (and often innocuous) superstition gained straight up viral status was with the invention of gods. That's religion. That "inescapable" caste system for your "soul". Completely fabricated for the sole ^heh purpose of population control in every capacity.
Now, what is your so-called "soul" if not made of your self-worth? Fast forward ~297,400 years to when a system of value placeholders is created (currency), and then a mere 1,300 years more for it to beget commercialism (not evolve; spawn). Then, driven by advertising, materialism, and greed, commerce rapidly gives rise to consumerism, et al. as we live it today.
These two parasitic institutions of our modern age are rooted in the same concepts, the same drive for control.
YouTube is in the system as much as we all are, and just like church: you can choose to be neither prey or product.
You choose.
I still don't see the point.
If religion showed you a method to get to God (praying, doing good deeds etc) and then someone came along who proved that there was a significantly easier way of attaining Nirvana without all the hassle; man would be afraid. "What if we get found out?" But when they see a LARGE and growing community of people ABLE to attain nirvana in exactly the same manner as described (i.e. without the pain) and while fighting the borderline criminal requirements that religion set - many would agree and leave the supposed "set" path and embark towards the easier solution. Some may do it out of greed, some desperation, and many more through sheer curiosity.
Why are people afraid of piracy? Use a damn no-log VPN and attain whatever it is you want without corporate monkeys in your brain. Get a seed box to give back to the community. Give a coffee to the people doing the hard work for the extra seretonin.
The only reason why someone would be arbitrarily afraid is if they don't have a clue. Such people should be getting into a habit of RTFM; they're going to need it.
A LOT of people pay for that. I was flabbergasted as well. Why would you pay for a free service? This feels like buying premium bottled tap water and they don't even bother to filter out the chlorine and the heavy metals.
People buy diet water, so i don't think there is a limit to what people buy
If it were a charity or non-profit that would be one thing. Google is doing fine without your support though.
Do you pay for Lemmy? Did you donate something? Or do you think you don't need to, because it's free?
I'm sorry, I did not put this in the right words. I thought I already deleted the comment. But no yes yes.
because it is not a free service, you are watching ads.
I may accept it if it was not bundled with data mining. and if they wouldn't constantly increase prices
It started out incredibly cheap ($15 mo for six people), and includes a Spotify style music streaming service
I pay for YouTube premium because I like the idea of content creators getting paid when I watch their videos. I don't want to manually send each of them money or sign up for their channel memberships or anything. But if they make videos that I watch and they get a kickback? I'm fine with that.
I also have a YouTube channel that bring in a bit of beer money, so I use that to justify the cost.
Yup. Pretty much. 🤷🏼♂️
That is generally why people pay for things