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You’re free to leave. Because blanket statements and false accusations might work in your favor elsewhere.
The US? It's not free to leave temporarily or permanently, no idea who lied to you. More importantly it's conservatives like you that tend to give up instead of trying to make the world better.
I’m a conservative now? Boy, you really do like making your assumptions, don’t you? I’m going to guess that you’re no stranger to accusing people of supporting genocide, right?
Hilarious! Thanks for the laugh! Maybe check people’s comment history before making ignorant accusations and assumptions of others.
And are you seriously suggesting that I am incapable of leaving America if I chose? Man… I should cancel my vacation plans to Ireland I guess.
You're advocating and defending a conservative party, if you're not conservative that's just silly.
As far as your second sentence, 2/10.
You clearly have a reading comprehension problem.
That, or you’re a typical lemmy leftist that has no fucking clue what nuance is. My guess is that it’s a little of both with the latter being a result of the former.
It’s not a conservative stance to say America isn’t fascist. It is an ignorant stance to make blanket statements about an entire country of people, its history- and its entire culture of political belief.
I started off by suggesting that if they think America is fascist, they’re welcome to leave. YOU decided to blather on. Nonsense and poorly constructed attacks on who I am and what I believe in some sad semblance of a defense.
Learn how nuance affects everything that exists. The world isn’t black or white, yes or no, with us or against us. Nuance touches everything.
And learn it quick.
And neat how you managed to get the same amount of upvotes on your response mere minutes after making it- which was two hours after I commented and had zero downvotes. That seems to happen a lot with your comments I noticed. Your sock puppets won’t unwrite your ignorance.
You’re here in bad-faith. We’re done here.
In American politics the "love it or leave it" trope you are using is undeniably right-wing rhetoric. It was first popularized in that form by McCarthy and Nixon as a response to civil rights and anti-Vietnam War protests. It has since been used by Reagan, both Bushes, and Trump primary in response to either protests or immigrants that they believe have not sufficiently assimilated into American culture. It's also probably the most unAmerican trope currently used in American political discourse. Protest and criticism of government is fundamental to America's history and identity and is covered by 3 of the freedoms guaranteed in the First Amendment.
When you go against the hivemind by making a comment which requires a nuanced interpretation, instead you get labeled a conservative because it’s easier and requires less thought.
Yeah. That’s exactly how shit goes down here if you stand in the way of all the manufactured outrage. These people actually want to be angry.
And the moment you try and illustrate how things like blanket generalizations and hive-minded black-and-white thinking are actually contrary to the concept of free thinking, you end up ironically becoming the villain of their little stories.
I appreciate tour willingness to join me in this firing line. It’s good to see someone else with a rational head on their shoulders.
I'm right where I need to be.
Well, that didn’t take long.
Bye!
Oh, and America isn’t fascist. The only people that think it is are pseudo-intellectual socialists that have no fucking clue about anything.
I dont think it is either, but heres the fucken thing all they said was that American fascism fucken predated radio and guess what the Confederacy was fascist. Sorry for making assumptions but your comment didnt leave much room for interpretation, learn to express yourself with word rather than using reactionary bullshit slogans.
But America isn’t fascist. So they’re wrong. It doesn’t predate shit. The confederacy may have had tendencies leaning towards fascism, but the confederacy wasn’t America.
So my point was that if they want to make ignorance-based blanket statements about about an entire country, they happen to be doing so about one that gives you the freedom to leave it.
Maybe they should exercise that freedom.
All they said was that US fascism arrived before radio. There isnt anything within their comment that indicates an opinion beyond that. They could be referring to anything from segreagation to the Confederacy to the southern colonies and their aristocracy. There isnt really any meat to their statement just the bare bones.
As far as I can tell based on the unspecific, generalized use of the terms by people across the political spectrum, "fascist" and "nazi" just mean someone or something with which someone disagrees or finds annoying, so under this much more nebulous definition, anyone and everything can be fascist.
For instance you and your comment are fascist. See? It worked!
I don’t deal in the bullshit flavor-of-the-week redefining of things. Fascism isn’t something that ever should be redefined. It’s a serious and incredibly harmful ideology that should not be joked about.
I’d no sooner call someone a fascist where they clearly aren’t defined as one, than I would accuse someone of being a rapist that isn’t one.
But then again, I’m an adult. And I know better.
Sorry couldn't hear you
S’okay. Written words aren’t expected to be heard.
What?