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[-] freagle@lemmygrad.ml 15 points 1 month ago

As seen in Nagasaki and Hiroshima

[-] barrbaric@hexbear.net 13 points 1 month ago

IIRC the damage inflicted by the atomic bombings weren't especially noteworthy compared to the rest of the bombing campaign, and it was more a way to test out their new toys. If the nukes hadn't been used but conventional bombing had continued, it would likely have had a similar result. This video by Shaun lays out a pretty compelling case that the Japanese surrender was due to the Soviet declaration of war and invasion of Manchuria.

This is all ignoring of course that despite the insistence of unconditional surrender, the Americans accepted surrender with conditions and allowed the emperor to continue to hold his titles anyway. There's definitely something to be said about taking maximalist positions just to make a point even when they don't actually care about several of the goals that make up those positions.

[-] freagle@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 1 month ago

Are you saying that using nukes against civilian populations was equivalent to conventional bombing because of "the damage"? What point are you trying to make here?

[-] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

The fire bombing of civilians were terrible and shouldn't be forgotten in the shade of the mushroom cloud.

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