I hate capeshit and only watched gave Joker a try because /r/ChapoTrapHouse was very positive about it. I found it a really powerful and moving story about a person being systemically oppressed, stigmatized, and criminalized by a brutal and evil system when he just needed a loving supportive caring Communist state to help him instead, and then striking back as a result. It was cathartic and it was deeply moving because I have known and cared for people like that.

And then I guess they threw in like 5% of capeshit shit but I almost entirely didn't need to know or care about that stuff. It felt like someone had tricked capeshit directors into letting them make a movie that was about systemic oppression under the guise of "yeah it'll totally be about your stupid superhero franchise!" when it really wasn't.

I liked that it didn't have the stupid frivolity and silliness of the 1st christopher nolan batman movie. I liked that it didn't have the shitty Joss Whedon one-liners and pro-military shit of the Marvel movies. I liked that it didn't have the pro-fascistic bent of the 2nd christopher nolan batman movie.

I wasn't planning to watch Jonkler 2 because the 1st movie ends with Arthur's transformation into Jonkler and I was afraid that meant a sequel would go hard into capeshit shit.

I tend to dislike musicals but I will sometimes enjoy one.

Based on the above, do you think I should give it a try or skip it?