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[-] DancingBear@midwest.social 13 points 1 month ago

Unwavering support of genocide will be Joe Biden’s legacy

[-] TheOubliette@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 month ago

Hey that's not fair! Let's give some credit to Kid Killer Kamala.

[-] DancingBear@midwest.social 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

In due time, I honestly hope she wins…. As much as I hate to say it

[-] TheOubliette@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 month ago

Don't support genociders

[-] Pilferjinx@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago

I'm saving all my gripes with kamala after the election.. Trump and the Christofascists with the daggers in his back are extremely dangerous.

[-] TheOubliette@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 month ago

The gripe is genocide. Supposedly the most unacceptable thing.

If not now, when?

[-] Pilferjinx@lemmy.world -1 points 1 month ago

You have 2 choices. Both are awful, one, however, is slightly less awful. Politicians are allowed to lie and not deliver on platform promises. Pressing kamala for words right now is meaningless. Protests after she is elected will be a lot easier and effective than a Trump administration.

[-] Fidel_Cashflow@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Protests after she is elected will be a lot easier and effective than a Trump administration.

wrong, when Good Team is in the white house, libs tend to turn off and not show up to protests/organize/etc because Good Team already won. when Bad Team gets in they at least pretend to care. a recent example you can look at is 2020, when trump was in office people were protesting police brutality, state repression etc. after 2020, not a peep, and more commonly active derision for protests.

[-] Pilferjinx@lemmy.world -2 points 1 month ago

Wait.. you want Trump to win? Is this an acceleration stance? I don't see how a far left movement can succeed in the turmoil.

[-] Fidel_Cashflow@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 month ago

No, nowhere in my post did I say I want trump to win. i said it's easier to organize when libs pretend to care about issues, instead of being actively detrimental to organizing efforts.

[-] TheOubliette@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago

Actually you and I have a third choice called not voting for either. You are under no obligation to vote for or support a genocide. You can, in fact, spend your efforts opposing it rather than carrying water for its perpetrators.

And I am not sure who told you that you have more leverage after elections rather than before, but they have no idea how leverage works or what building power looks like. But really, this is obviously not about strategy or organizing, but about how to justify yet again announcing support for the status quo - genocide edition.

Please actually oppose genocide instead of making excuses for it.

[-] Pilferjinx@lemmy.world -2 points 1 month ago

Okay man, vote for a third party. Good luck with all that.

[-] TheOubliette@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 month ago

You should be against genocide and act accordingly.

[-] Pilferjinx@lemmy.world -5 points 1 month ago

You should go to Israel and assassinate Netanyahu. Thanks

[-] davel@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 month ago

Assassinating Netanyahu wouldn’t change anything.

[-] TheOubliette@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 month ago

I do not have that power and that would also not be effective. Opposition requires organizing and supporting resistance.

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