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China’s plan to get around Western tariffs: Fill the world with factories (english.elpais.com)

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[-] switchboard_pete@fedia.io -1 points 1 month ago

I directly responded to the comparison to US offshoring that you made to explain why this is different.

and your argument boiled down "us bad china good"

If you took ten seconds to think about it, having any financial component makes my point correct and yours incorrect.

genuinely, what are you talking about?

you can't invest in factories abroad without by definition investing less in factories at home because resources are finite
us outsourcing started with "it's just supplemental" too, so you can't use that as a bulwark against any notion of further outsourcing

and you're coming at me to say that if money changes hands then that's not the case?

[-] TheOubliette@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 month ago

and your argument boiled down "us bad china good"

It doesn't, but you seem enamored with pretending this. If you actually responded to what I said rather than deflecting you might learn something. Or at least not repeat openly dishonest claims.

genuinely, what are you talking about?

The next sentence added all the context you should need. Zero sum logic doesn't apply here and part of the reason is the financial component. You'd be less confused if you engaged directly instead of dithering and avoiding what I say.

you can't invest in factories abroad without by definition investing less in factories at home because resources are finite

You keep repeating yourself rather than look at what I've already said. You would be less confused if you stopped avoiding my points about finance and neoliberal approaches and foreign direct investment and dollar recycling.

us outsourcing started with "it's just supplemental" too

I've already addressed this many times.

so you can't use that as a bulwark against any notion of further outsourcing

I don't even consider all FDI to be outsourcing, including this. This is because of the actual financial and geopolitical productive underpinnings of China's strategy. This is all part of BRI.

You are confused because you are just arguing with yourself rather than try and understand others.

[-] switchboard_pete@fedia.io 0 points 1 month ago

If you actually responded to what I said rather than deflecting you might learn something.

restate your point if you fluffed it up the first time, but no, what you provided initially was devoid of anything worth responding to

You keep repeating yourself rather than look at what I've already said.

because what you've said is nonsense that doesn't address anything i'm saying

let's keep this real simple: do you agree or not with the fact that spending resources to set up a factory in location A means you, right now, have fewer resources to spend setting up a factory in location B?

if no, where do the additional resources come from in the here and now? and, more importantly, why has china not already constructed an infinite number of factories?

[-] TheOubliette@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago

restate your point if you fluffed it up the first time

Go back and re-familiarize yourself with what I've said. Make a real effort instead of relying on deflecting crutches. I'm not going to feed into your poor behavior.
By your logic I don't need to, as I didn't "fluff" anything up.

but no, what you provided initially was devoid of anything worth responding to

If you would like to continue this conversion, you will have to respond to it. In fact, I will ignore the rest of what you say until you do. Good luck.