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Last time there was "Hamas documents" leaked it turned out to be fake.
https://www.jpost.com/israel-hamas-war/article-819230
The NY Times had hired an ex Israeli intelligence officer to write the article about sexual assaults during the Hamas attacks on October 7 that turned out to be way below journalistic standards, leading to the journalists union protesting the NY Times threatening employees who called out that article to be deeply flawed.
https://theintercept.com/2024/02/28/new-york-times-anat-schwartz-october-7/
I am highly skeptical that these two actors, IDF and NY Times who have collaborated in the past to spread misinformation, are a reliable source on this, especially as the time is just perfect for justifying Israels planned attacks on Iran.
From the JPost article:
Not the NYT. Not sure how the Times gets painted with that brush for not publishing based on those documents. Damned if you do, damned if you don't, I guess.
Your claim about the sexual violence article is also not true. The NYT spent a month re-reporting that story which didn't result in a single correction. Their reporting is also supported by a UN investigation that concluded that there "are reasonable grounds to believe that conflict-related sexual violence — including rape and gang-rape — occurred across multiple locations of Israel and the Gaza periphery during the attacks on 7 October 2023." I don't think you can accuse the UN of collaborating with the IDF.
From this article:
The jpost article showed Israeli officials forging and then leaking fake Hamas documents to spread misinformation. We have seen many such propaganda efforts, like the bullshit animation of the alleged tunnel system, or the video claiming a simple calender to be some terrorist schedule.
You misinterpret what the NY Times article claimes and what the UN investigation concluded. The NY Times article claimed widespread sexual violence and the sexual violence being an integral part of the strategy of Hamas for 07. October. The UN report concluded that there is evidence of sexual violence, but that it is not possible to determine it to be part of a deliberate strategy.
This is a very important distinction to make. Especially as Israel used this claim as "proof" how barbaric Palestinians would ne to justify their countless massacres and war crimes. There is no doubt that sexual violence did occur, but the NY Times and their intelligence asset deliberately blew it way out of proportion and made ridiculous claims off on it, in order to keep the support for Israels onslaught on Gaza high.
When i opened the article it stopped after "prelude to war". I didnt see the rest to be cut off.
With the description of some of the details being confirmed as well as the general structure, that still has limited use, without knowing ehich details. If the meetings and resulting letters with Hezbollah/Iran are confirmed, that is strong evidence. If it is just confirmation that they do keep notes and meet regularly, that is something everyone should know.
As for the IDF report "obtained" by the NYT we are back to square one. The IDF deliberately makes forged leaks to media outlets to spread misinformation. This is also th be expected from any serious army, but with this particular army we have a lot of recent evidence of the practice.