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I remember when this happened. I think it's wild that she is still being detained for it.
It happens. I know a weird amount of people who stabbed someone as a kid. Two of them went to the same institution at different times and they both told told me about a girl was really tall, 6 foot at age 13, who had stabbed a few staffers with shanks and almost started a number of fires.
Apparently the staff told them she would never have a moment of freedom in her life.
Did the staff tell her she would never have a moment of freedom in her life before the stabbing and the fires started? Because that might explain them.
So many people like to ignore that mentally ill people are rarely acting out just to act out. Yes it happens, but often there’s a line of reasoning, including emotional disregulation and failure to appropriately escalate. Take someone with those traits, lock them up, and add distress to them (especially when you’re frustrated at their behavior) and they’re prone to do whatever they think they can.
No clue. I kind of doubt it.
.. really? It's really crazy to you that someone who ~~murdered~~ attempted to murder a little girl and blamed a meme has been in a mental hospital for 10 years?
Edit: meh. I'm at a "everyone sucks here" conclusion. The abusers suck, and the US prison / mental health "totally not prison" systems all suck.
That 'someone" was a mentally ill child. Yes it's crazy to lock up a twelve year old for 10+ years. Period. Full stop. But beyond that especially one that was mentally ill at the time who you were supposed to be treating for the last ten years.
You've misread. She is and has been in a mental health facility this whole time.
I didn't misread, being in a criminal mental health facility is being locked up. In the US they no better than prisons.
I think you need to read up on what they do to kids in such facilities.
Treat them?
Yes. Treat them:
https://arktimes.com/arkansas-blog/2024/06/12/abuse-at-arkansas-youth-psychiatric-facilities-spotlighted-at-u-s-senate-hearing
Treat them like animals.
Not really. Some just abuse them and often won't let them go no matter how much they improve. They are basically prisons for kids.
Just to be clear, the victim survived the stabbing. Not that that changes the intent of the crime.
Thank you, it had been a while and I misremembered. I corrected my comment
Uh yeah cuz she was fucking 12 years old when she did it...
Her parents should be in jail for not noticing her condition earlier.
You clearly never had children.
Every evil person was already who they were at the age of 12.
"There are people out there with bad person brain™ and we should just kill them."
You really need to stop watching content made by fake "narcissism experts" and maybe fucking educate yourself on what mental illness actually is.
You're a worse person than the woman in n the article.
Going ad hominem really makes your argument seem weaker. To say "because you don't see things the way I do you are a bad person" is some pretty shitty behavior.
Reading through what you say in this thread you clearly don't want to listen to any reasonable arguments and just want to put away the evil monsters.
Actually I'm generally against the concept of prison. It is really a way for NIMBY types to warehouse those they don't care for and allow for cruelty to be inflicted away from the public perception. I also do not think that this girl is evil, nor do I believe that "evil" exists in the world--it is a concept that reductivist thinkers believe in. She was very obviously very sick from a very young age and probably should have received some sort of intervention a very long time before any of these events occurred. In fact, society failed her and we should all feel ashamed.
That said, this person has shown signs that she cannot be allowed in public--not because she's bad, but because she is not in contact with reality. She can hopefully be rehabilitated to some extent but may never be safely be part of the public again. None of us have been around her and none of us know for sure. It may be precisely as people here hope--she's fine or better and can get to a point of release.
My real argument is to ask people why they are treating this like the Britney Spears event. We knew a whole hell of a lot more about her than we do about this situation. What I get in response is personal attacks and people (literally) telling me that I am an evil person who wants others to suffer. That is now how you have a conversation. If the response is "it's obvious and you're a bad person for not seeing it," are we any better than the tankies?
Except when they get labeled as a bad wrong person™ at some point in their life and then they can rot in an institution forever, not allowed to actually live life.
It's incredibly hard to give that sort of intervention to young children for a lot of reasons.
Now though, she has had that intervention and several professionals have argued for her introduction to society, how does this mesh with your "throw the key away" attitude?
Also in this thread you literally called her evil, maybe you are hallucinating and should also be locked up.
You are a random internet user who has never met her and clearly has some sort of agenda against mentally ill people, that is not for you to decide.
I advise you to seek therapy because either someone hurt you and now you're taking it out on other people, or you're paranoid yourself.
Exactly, you don't know shit about this event but her petition included opinions of several experts who assessed her state and you are just willfully ignoring them.
You are just as bad as the tankies in this situation.
It's really unfortunate that you cannot communicate without making it personal. Think I'm going to extricate myself and block the toxicity coming from you.
Stop projecting and seek help for the sake of yourself and the people in your life.
Is it sarcasm or not?
It was slightly facetious. First: I don't believe in the concept of evil, it's a reductivist view of human behavior. The point is that people with personality disorders are usually born with them. To say "oh but they were young" somehow misses the fact that nearly no people at that age try to kill people for fictional figures.
Yeah, I remember this one too. Going back and reading one of the articles from when it happened, and I just don't have words for it.
https://www.cnn.com/2014/06/03/justice/wisconsin-girl-stabbed/index.html