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[-] HarryLime@hexbear.net 41 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

We're really just never going to see Typhlosian again because of some leaked document?

I'm going to be honest, I liked those stories from the documents. They felt like real myths and legends in the pokèmon world. So what if they were weird and fucked up? So is real mythology.

[-] Frank@hexbear.net 23 points 1 day ago

Yeah the one with the Slakoth baby is a pretty formulaic swan wife/fox wife/selkie story with a few variations.

[-] Redcuban1959@hexbear.net 18 points 1 day ago

iirc, Pokémon and Human relations were actually canon in some of the DS games, but only in the original japanese version. For the US version they changed some words to be more like: "Back in the day Pokémon were more closer to humans, they ate in the same table, did the same things and were good friends". But in the japanese version they basically said that humans would date and marry pokémons.

I still think it's fucked up what they wrote in the leaked doc, but I don't think they should remove Typhlosian for something that is not even canon or appeared in any game or media. But knowing Nintendo, I guess Typhlosian is going to get the Porygon treatment, and never show up again in any bigger role other than some random pokémon.

[-] Frank@hexbear.net 18 points 1 day ago

That more or less just makes Pokemon equivalent to Kitsune or some Kami.

[-] frauddogg@hexbear.net 2 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

Basically yokai from what I can tell, just more ~~physical~~ corporeal; did NOT think about that phrasing til I hit post

[-] bigbrowncommie69@hexbear.net 14 points 1 day ago

Sappho and her Pokémon

[-] Poogona@hexbear.net 7 points 1 day ago

I agree with you that the little tales in the leaks do actually fit the style of real mythology, which is full of stories about freaky sex from incest to bestiality to tree-sired pregnancies and self-cest.

Imo this is just an example of why these attempts at story-driven immortal franchises will inevitably collapse under their own weight. Pokemon initially worked fine as a sort of amusement park reality where there isn't really any focus on the wider world or its history, but as these weird amalgamated corporate franchises get bigger than their original scope, they run out of material to grow up with, and they start to just grow in every other direction instead. It's why your favorite Netflix series starts to fill its runtime with episodes devoted to giving every side character, no matter how irrelevant, a full developmental arc--the "universification" of settings

[-] Frank@hexbear.net 2 points 13 hours ago

Word. For my archaic Millenial ass Star Wars is this. EVERY SINGLE EXTRA IN EVERY SCENE is a secret hero of the republic jedi who escaped the purge and is involved in secret rebellion business, as revealed in Tales of the Jedi issue 42069 originally published in 1993 and elevated to C canon by Disney in 2017.

[-] SadArtemis@hexbear.net 9 points 1 day ago

Just read the documents and- agreed. I actually really like the stories, they bring a immense degree of life (historical life, cultures, the development and beliefs of civilization in the series and how their ancients saw the world around them).

They might not be the best fit for as mainstream/""family friendly""/etc of a franchise as Pokemon (more financially/possibly decreasing the target audience a little bit) but if they were obscure lore/etc ingame it would honestly be really cool.

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