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Ukrainian men dragged away outside Kyiv nightclubs and restaurants by army recruiters
(www.independent.co.uk)
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@poVoq@slrpnk.net how many more Ukrainians are going to have to be murdered by the regime for you to be happy?
You're finally admitting that the Russian invasion is murder?
I'm talking about the murder of people who are being gang pressed into fighting by the fascist regime the west installed and people like you support.
Isn't umm fighting against invasion is required by law for most countries?
Sometimes the law is wrong, and following it is wrong
Dying for nothing in a lost war is one of those times
Weird way to justify people being forced to fight into something they clearly don't believe in or have any interest defending.
Sadly law isn't arbitrary
law has nothing to do with morality
That's wildly incorrect lol
So according to your galaxy brain logic slavery war moral when it was legal in US?
No what? What leaps did your galaxy brain take there?
I said that law has nothing to do with morality, and you claimed that is wildly incorrect. So, I gave you a clear example of a law that's directly at odds with morality. What part of that are you struggling to comprehend there?
:S laws can be unmoral as well, yes? What do you not comprehend about laws being based on morality? Most laws, to specify for you so you don't need to take that turn.
Again, laws are not a source of morality and whether something is legal or not has no impact on whether it's moral, so your justification of conscription as being legal is nonsensical. Hope that clears things up for you.
To clear things up for you, you stated that laws had nothing to do with morality, and that is false as previously seen.
But I do agree that laws might not be a source of morality, even if some laws aim to alter how people view certain matters.
It's like you can't understand the concept of thing being tangential. Laws can align with morality or not, but morality is not derived from laws. Nor do laws have to be derived from morality.
Read what I wrote again, you're close to grasping it :)
I have the same to say to you. :)
You are being remarkably patient with this individual that is wilfully missing your point.
Let's not forget that most countries also have constitutions. The citizens constitutional rights cannot be overshadowed by draft. Therefore forcible totalitarian draft is not legal. Here it's problematic because sovereign legal institutions are non existent in Ukraine and lets admit that in many states legal institutions would crumble when defending citizens rights against violent governments.
do you admit ukrainian shelling of the breakaway republics was mass murder? or do they not count bc they speak the wrong language?
They were trying to prevent the slaughter of ethnic Russians in the independent republics. Also stop the continual acts of terrorism coming from the CIA controlled SBU (there's a NYT article about this subject FYI)