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No one is moving off Signal, don't listen to him
Some people realized when Signal removed SMS support on Android that Signal is a private org that can make changes as they see fit, and there’s nothing you can do about it.
Other people get stuck on the fact that Signal requires a legitimate phone number in order to operate.
In both of these situations, the people up in arms usually don’t understand WHY the changes were privacy and security improvements and make Signal a better platform. But the argument about not being fully in control still stands.
So it could be argued that Signal may keep you safer than if you try to roll your own Matrix or SimpleX server, and it’s definitely a better platform for anyone who wouldn’t have a clue how to set up and secure their own server. But people have definitely had reasons for leaving it.
Personally, I use both Signal and Matrix, and push average people towards Signal.
Signal aint perfect and current leadership is sus... giving me 'em Mozilla vibes.
I foresee another migration in my feature but currently it is the gold standard for at least some keeping your msg content "private"
Meta data collection is still a huge issue with Signal and its architecture nearly built this feature into it.
Signal is designed to collect meta-metadata. They don’t hold any information that can tie a person to their account, but they definitely know how those accounts interact via their servers.
They know my phone number. Which in Europe is tied to me. They absolutely hold info about who talks to who
How do they know your phone number? Only a cryptographic hash of it is sent to their servers.
Not really. See the support page regarding this:
It's OK to stay on signal but to say no one is switching is untrue.
It was pretty small numbers before (darknet) but a youtuber called Mental outlaw did a video on it recently and now it's exploded into the more mainstream privacy communities.
It isn't perfect, and signal has a lot of perks but there's no need to literally ignore new developments