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Does Trump Have Momentum? (www.natesilver.net)
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Nate Silver's polling tracker now has Trump slightly favored to win (50.2%) the election. While this shift appears small, it has drawn attention because it pushes Trump just past the halfway mark in forecasts for winning the Electoral College.

Silver explains that while Trump’s rise over recent weeks is significant, and his polling model, is designed to minimize overreactions to new data to provide more accurate long-term predictions (i.e., it's likely a "real" effect), this doesn't in any way mean Trump "will" win, and the race remains highly competitive, especially in key states like Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania, which are critical to determining the outcome.

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[-] jordanlund@lemmy.world 22 points 7 hours ago

Yes, Trump appears to have momentum, but it also appears to be a phantom momentum driven by right leaning polling organizations.

https://www.hopiumchronicles.com/p/the-hungry-harris-campaign-early?utm_source=publication-search

"I now count 27 Republican or right-aligned entities in the polling averages:

American Greatness, Daily Mail, co/efficent, Cygnal, Echelon, Emerson, Fabrizio, Fox News, Insider Advantage, McLaughlin, Mitchell Communications, Napolitan Institute, Noble Predictive, On Message, Orbital Digital, Public Opinion Strategies, Quantus, Rasmussen, Redfield & Wilton, Remington, RMG, SoCal Data, The Telegraph, Trafalgar, TIPP, Victory Insights, Wall Street Journal.

In September 12 of the 24 polls of North Carolina were conducted by red wave pollsters. Check out the last 4 polls released in PA on 538. All are red wavers."

[-] P00ptart@lemmy.world 7 points 3 hours ago

This is part of the plan, to induce doubt. "We couldn't possibly have lost a fair election! We were ahead!"

[-] WoahWoah@lemmy.world 6 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

Hopefully.

He makes a pretty convincing case for both the idea that "momentum" is kind of meaningless, but also that Trump slowly gaining for the last 30 days is not. Part of what pushed it over the line (Silver is quick to point out that 49.8 and 50.2 is basically meaningless like the difference between a 49th and 50th birthday; we like round numbers) is the Fox News poll.

As he demonstrates, there is no detectable right-wing bias in Fox News polling despite the obvious bias of their news reporting. I can't speak to the others, but I'm not ready to dismiss all polls based on the political identification of the organization, if the polling is of high quality.

My gut tells me Trump is going to pull this out somehow. But, then again, my gut literally has shit for brains.

[-] jordanlund@lemmy.world 7 points 6 hours ago

My personal opinion is that it's going to be far closer than anyone is really comfortable with.

I mean, look at 2020... BOTH candidates got more votes than any other candidate in history. 74 million people out of 330 million voted for Trump. 22.4% of the entire population went "Yeah, he looks good!"

[-] UniversalMonk@lemmy.world -1 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

What makes me think Trump will lose again is the issue of women's rights/abortion.

I don’t think the people most affected by that are the ones answering poll questions, so I don't think their thoughts are being fully represented in the polls.

[-] jordanlund@lemmy.world 5 points 4 hours ago

God I hope so, but Trump's continued support, specifically with white women, the largest demographic, is just BAFFLING to me.

[-] UniversalMonk@lemmy.world -1 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

I do see some older middle-aged women Trump supporters here, but most of the Trump supporters I see are the guys with the flags on their trucks and stuff.

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