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I assume the story itself will be updated as they go through those thousands of pages

See the documents below

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/67656604/united-states-v-trump/?filed_after=&filed_before=&entry_gte=&entry_lte=&order_by=desc

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[-] unemployedclaquer@sopuli.xyz 54 points 1 day ago

also include a heavily redacted transcript from a January 6 Committee interview of Rusty Bowers, in which the then-Arizona House Speaker described hanging up on Trump after turning down his request to ignore the state's Biden electors and install electors for Trump instead.

"That's exactly what I did," Bowers told committee member Adam Schiff during the June 19, 2022 interview. "I disconnected us. I hung up on him."

Bucket list item: hang up the phone on Trump. But not angrily. I just want him to hear that dial tone... oh that doesn't exist anymore

[-] SupraMario@lemmy.world 29 points 1 day ago
[-] billwashere@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

It is. Shh don’t tell anybody.

[-] thatKamGuy@sh.itjust.works 38 points 1 day ago

Being handed the opportunity to appoint three Supreme Court judges prior to committing the act, takes it from treason to ‘sparkling presidential acts’..

[-] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

Nope. That ruling doesn't apply here because he was acting as a candidate for the Presidency at the time.

A President cannot act on behalf of their campaign in an official capacity.

[-] WildPalmTree@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago

But I'm sure he can act on behalf of the country to "safe-guard" blah, blah, blah....

[-] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

He can investigate crimes as President, but he cannot attempt to circumvent the counting of the vote.

Certifying the vote is the duty of the legislative branch (Pence was acting as President of the Senate - a legislative role), and if it needs to be stopped due to legal reasons that's the jurisdiction of the judicial branch.

Separation of Powers requires that the President cannot officially act in that situation.

Furthermore, he didn't investigate any allegations that people had voted for Trump illegally.

But the biggest smoking gun on whether it was the President or Candidate Donald Trump is that Trump specifically excluded the official White House counsel from his meetings but did include his personal and campaign lawyers. That says that not only was he acting outside his official duties, but that he knew he was acting as a candidate.

[-] WildPalmTree@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

I'm not saying you are wrong; I'm saying that excuses sometimes, especially with politicians, Republicans, Trump, is enough. The dog ate my home-work. Vote. Vote all you can and get non-indoctrinated people to vote. Vote like our lives depend on it. Vote like it is you last chance to vote. Vote no matter what you think of the candidates but on which one is completely absurd and which one is not. Vote for your children and the rest of the world. Vote for not scams and lies. Vote and get people to vote.

[-] Akasazh@feddit.nl 5 points 1 day ago

That's what Jack Smith argued, let's see if it holds up in court if Donnie gets elected again

[-] Veneroso@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

Or just declare it an official act prior .....

[-] Timecircleline@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 day ago

I have a flip phone and one of the things I love about it is closing it to hang up. That satisfaction I think makes up for knowing there's no dial tone.

[-] billwashere@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

It’s like the old Mitch Hedberg joke of having an argument in a tent. You can’t leave and slam the flap so you zip it up real quick?

https://youtu.be/C7b4MWaZtx8?si=jRCbweVTJ1BntLzj

[-] Dkarma@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

Comedy genius. Rip.mitch

[-] BluesF@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Ah, I miss flip phones. If I wasn't totally hooked on my little screen box I would go back.

[-] dirthawker0@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago

I had a little silver one, apparently marketed to the ladies as it had a little mirror. But flip phones were completely Star Trek TOS - Scotty, one to beam up.

Yeah, I was an early adoptor, had a phone with a flip down bit and an aerial to pull up. I thought it was cool as fuck but in retrospect it was probably big enough to fight off a bear with.

[-] edgesmash@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

I feel like the flip phone should be an accessory to the screen box. It's a superior device to chatting and hanging up, just make it Bluetooth and snap into the back of the phone.

[-] BluesF@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago

If we ever see AR or implants overtake touch screens (unlikely imo because typing in AR fucking sucks) then I hope flips come back just for the talking part.

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