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The U.S. government’s road safety agency is again investigating Tesla’s “Full Self-Driving” system, this time after getting reports of crashes in low-visibility conditions, including one that killed a pedestrian.

The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration says in documents that it opened the probe on Thursday with the company reporting four crashes after Teslas entered areas of low visibility, including sun glare, fog and airborne dust.

In addition to the pedestrian’s death, another crash involved an injury, the agency said.

Investigators will look into the ability of “Full Self-Driving” to “detect and respond appropriately to reduced roadway visibility conditions, and if so, the contributing circumstances for these crashes.”

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[-] Cethin@lemmy.zip 37 points 2 months ago

The bad news is people hitting and killing pedestrians is so common you don't hear about it. Fuck Musk and all that, but some number of people are always going to get killed. Even the FSD system that was as close to perfect as possible would still occasionally kill someone in large enough numbers, because there's too many variables to account for. If the numbers are lower than a human driving, it's a positive.

We should be trying to move away from cars though ideally. Fuck electric cars, FSD cars, and all other cars. A bus, train, bike, or whatever else would be safer and better for the environment.

[-] fne8w2ah@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Public transport is the way to go, just need to break the cycle of six decades of automobile addiction.

[-] beanlink@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

Lets install adaptive headlights to stop blinding people or allowing manufacturers to install chrome accents on the rear of a vehicle to again stop blinding people or even just maybe make a smaller truck that isn't lifting ego and instead actual building materials.

NHSTA:

[-] Fuzzy_Red_Panda@lemm.ee 1 points 2 months ago

Fuck Musk and all that, but some number of people are always going to get killed.

That's easy to say, but do you want to be one of the people who gets killed? I don't.

[-] Cethin@lemmy.zip 0 points 2 months ago

Yeah, it's that easy to say and yeah, I don't want to be one of the people killed, driverless or not. Cars are fucking deadly. 20 pedestrians die every day to cars. If we can get that number down but have them die to FSD vehicles, that's better. I don't care who or what is driving.

I'd rather not have cars everywhere, but if we do I want them to be as safe as possible (for everyone, not just the driver). If that includes FSD we should do it, even if the number of pedestrian deaths doesn't hit zero (it never will) because the alternative is well above zero.

[-] Blackmist@feddit.uk 0 points 2 months ago

If I'm get killed by a driver on their phone, I want them to go to prison.

If I'm killed by a Waymo or whatever, who goes to jail then?

If we really must have self driving cars, limit their speed to 20mph in built up areas.

[-] Cethin@lemmy.zip 0 points 2 months ago

If you're dead, why the fuck do you care who goes to jail? Shouldn't we care more about people dying than revenge after?

[-] interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 months ago

Don't reason deterrentists, they cause wars and send millions to prison

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