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[-] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 13 points 1 day ago

Getting rid of monarchy famously destroyed all the benefits that enlightenment brought the people. /s

[-] Quacksalber@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 day ago

Most monarchies didn't get 'destroyed' and most peasants living under monarchies didn't have much to lose to begin with. The world is much more interconnected now.

[-] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net -1 points 19 hours ago

... just because the world is more interconnected doesn't state anything about how much the people have to lose. Inequality in income is ridiculously high rn.

[-] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

Yeah, and as we all know it goes very smoothly with no long running issues. France in the early 1790s was a great place for all, if memory serves.

[-] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net -2 points 1 day ago

So... are you pro or anti monarchy...? O.o

[-] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

Anti-monarch, but anti-accellerationist too. I'm sure you can see what part I was responding to.

[-] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 6 points 1 day ago

Destroying systems isn't necessarily accelerationist.

[-] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Maybe not a necessity, but it's there much more often than not.

Everyone talks about destroying the system, but not nearly as much about the systems that are to be built in its place or how to transition between them without mass violence that is wanted and encouraged by accelerationists to take down the system. Sure, community self defence networks help, but you're still at the mercy of whatever shithead takes the reigns in the inevitable power vacuum. Especially if you can't make/keep a large enough coalition to keep everything from falling apart into everyone's personal fiefdom.

[-] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net -1 points 20 hours ago

How are people supposed to solve these issues if they don't feel like the current system is beyond reform? Defending the status quo will bring us nowhere.

[-] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 1 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

Defending the status quo will bring us nowhere.

And "Just do something" is a shit take unless you can figure out how to solve the problems without the chaos caused by destroying the system with nothing to take it's place or to fill the vacuum left behind.

So many problems are exacerbated by well meaning people who want to 'just do something's with no concept of the consequences or the knock-on effects of their actions.

[-] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 1 points 14 hours ago

Good thing I'm not arguing for "just do something", then

[-] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 0 points 14 hours ago

No, you're arguing for destroying the system and not commenting at all on the shit that I'm pointing out, so yeah, you're at 'do something' in my eyes. And between that and that I'm out of give a shit for this conversation, I'm out.

Good day

[-] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 1 points 13 hours ago

As if these issues can be easily solved in a lemmy comment by some rando on the internet. How entitled can one be?

[-] Quacksalber@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 day ago

"Destroying" has a pretty obvious connotation.

[-] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 0 points 19 hours ago

The connotationof fundamental critique? That the system is beyond reform? I'm not sure what you mean, so it can't be that obvious.

this post was submitted on 19 Oct 2024
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