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Syncthing Android app discontinued
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this post was submitted on 20 Oct 2024
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This is sad. Google Play should never hold this much weight in the self hosted community. For Android users dedicated to open source software, F-Droid is the target.
I don't think SyncThing users would have much issue with the app disappearing from Google. Doing away with Google is the goal.
The problem is not "Syncthing users" it is the others that we bring along with us.
I already have F-Droid on my phone, but the dozen others that I have promoted Syncthing to over the years do not. This is going to cause a bunch of problems.
This is much more important than what you portray here.
That and the shrinking ability to grant access to device storage. If that becomes an option only on rooted phones (which seems like the directly Google is heading) it will make the audience for such an app much smaller.
If google heads that way I'll head somewhere else.
To apple? Linux phone experience is just trash.
This is my currently dilemma.
Each year Android becomes more restrictive like iOS with none of the benefits, Rooting becomes harder as more apps tap into the Play Integrity API (and strong Integrity is on the way to kill most workarounds for it), iPhone got a little better but is still locked down as fuck, where the hell do I go to? 😒
LineageOS, maybe? Still Android, but (AFAIK) more open to change than standard Android.
I've been using custom ROMs for a while now, but the reality is that they can only do so much to stop Android's ever increasing restrictions.
And the aforementioned Integrity API also detects unlocked bootloaders, meaning this will gradually become more of a problem.
Realistically I have no where to go and that's the problem. iOS is even more locked down.
No one says you have to upgrade your phone OS to the latest Android. You can just keep using the Android (and/or Custom ROM) that works.
Sure, but what about security? Not that I haven't had to use outdated phones before.
Security is not a state but a scale, and is gauged against everything else.
From the perspective of a privacy / security zealot, a smartphone is SOL as soon as they lave the factory, as not only not even OTA updates keep them safe (and you can argue that with some manufacturers such as Samsung, OTA does is the primary risk vector!) but they can eg.: ship with unfixable vulns at the hardware level that would lead to ditch the whole thing anyway.
So long as there isn't something like a state-funded program for citizens to renew their phones every ~2 years for fully open ones, I'd not worry much. After all, the other option would be not using a phone because current ones are a PITA and just as vulnerable from the other end.
IMHO some update is better than no update at all!
Oh yeah totally. But while one could argue we are owed security, we are not owed updates. (And when we do, they're offered to us via "buy another phone", such is Capitalism).
And yet Resilio can access a lot more than ST, even without root.
Isn't that helping the average users with security in a way that a scam app can't see much else than itself?
The point you raise reminds me of when Signal dropped SMS support, after my efforts to convert all the non techie people in my life over to it. So sad when it happens...
I don't follow - do people still seriously use SMS? I for one try to use it as little as possible.
I was reminded of the same thing.