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[-] zazazaza@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Idk I personally can empathize with people that have been forced by the Zionist regime to indiscriminately kill civilians "for the greater good" without necessarily blaming the individuals themselves..

Like I don't question there are IOF soldiers that are bloodthirsty and see Palestinians as less than human target practice - but I also doubt that a person that experiences severe PTSD and takes their own life was like "hell yeah let's bulldoze some Palestinian kids!1!" - I think this just shows that while the Zionist genocidal machine massively harms Palestinians first and foremost - it also has a detrimental effect on its own citizens (see Vietnamese war veterans) - so while it may seem "just" to clown on the puppets carrying out the genocide on the ground - some of them are still just mislead people that have been fed on an abundant diet of hasbara 🤷🏽‍♀️

[-] somename@hexbear.net 14 points 1 month ago

No. That’s bullshit. You can fully blame them. Nothing forced them to serve in the IOF.

[-] miz@hexbear.net 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

per a recent article posted here from an "Israeli" media source, the IOF isn't even enforcing rules against desertion

[-] FALGSConaut@hexbear.net 9 points 1 month ago

Naw they always have a choice. That one person who ran a Taylor Swift fan account took a moral stance and is braver than 100% of any of the cowards in the IOF.

Every single IOF troop could get hamas-red-triangle or officer-down and I wouldn't shed a tear

[-] hotcouchguy@hexbear.net 5 points 1 month ago

To a small degree maybe, but I imagine if you're not enthusiastic about killing children you get shuffled off to some other role reasonably quickly. As an institution they're motivated to match the real bloodthirsty psychos with the hands-on jobs, and give the genocide-support roles to the squeamish ones.

[-] Belly_Beanis@hexbear.net 2 points 1 month ago

This is nazi apologia. I mean like actual, 1945, "guards at Auschwitz" nazis. A lot of Germans developed psychological problems due to their crimes against humanity. It's why they created death camps. And they all claimed they were "...just following orders." Many more claimed it was a "necessary evil to eliminate the Judeo-Bolshevik hordes."

Despite all this, nazis still got hanged after the war (especially if they were caught by the soviets). We can list Germans who didn't commit atrocities or actively fought against the genocide being carried out. There's hundreds of them listed on Wikipedia alone. The Germans knew what they were doing was wrong. They ignored morality because they wanted an excuse to steal from and kill their neighbors.

[-] AssortedBiscuits@hexbear.net 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

but I also doubt that a person that experiences severe PTSD and takes their own life was like "hell yeah let's bulldoze some Palestinian kids!1!"

I dunno, he sounded pretty fucking happy to me bulldozing Palestinian homes with a shit-eating grin. Just laughing it up with his fellow genocider and appearing on talk shows to brag about bulldozing 5000 Palestinian homes. But it stopped being so funny when his partner-in-genocide got liquidated by the Resistance.

Hope his suicide was one of those botched hangings where the hanged suffocates for hours before finally dying.

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