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[-] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social -2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

They're being ironic and edgy. Probably.

The question is only whether you consider ironic racism (in this case mocking 19th and 20th century "race science" with reversals of focus) to be racism regardless.

I don't think so, but there's also always elements of Poe's Law to consider. Not to mention that, for example, British and American racists literally said these things unironically about Germans, reaching fever pitches in WW1.

[-] goat@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

If you say any group of people are prone to rape because of their brains, then that is racist.

[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

You should look at US WWII propaganda cartoons. It is very "interesting"

During that time the US rounded up all Asians and put them in internment camps for "there own safety." Let's just say they didn't feel very safe living in a prison. I actually knew someone who grew up in one of the internment camps. She didn't want to talk about the experience so I'm assuming it was unpleasant.

Long story short is that no country is free from the danger of race theory.

[-] PugJesus@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

During that time the US rounded up all Asians and put them in internment camps for “there own safety.”

Japanese-Americans only. Chinese-Americans were actually highly praised by US propaganda of the time.

Racism is arbitrary and insane.

[-] Zomg@lemmy.world -2 points 1 month ago

We all know words can't really express sarcasm or other underlying feelings or meanings very clearly. Without a /s your only able to assume if the they did or didn't actually mean that.

[-] goat@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 month ago

So what's the joke? Are they're pretending to be racist without the topic (rammstein) ever mentioning race to begin with?

I don't buy that. 'Please excuse me. I'm just going to be sarcastically racist without anyone previously mentioning race!' -- It's straight out of the alt-right playbook; when called out, claim it's a sarcastic, ironic joke!

[-] Zomg@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

No clue, could be either. It's text on a screen and the only emotion present, is the one you decide to apply to it.

Ask them if it was a joke or not to be sure, and if you have to ask, it's because it might not be.

[-] goat@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 month ago

Sounds like you're going to lengths to defend this behaviour or to differentiate it.

No apologia is allowed

[-] Zomg@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Actually no, the hexbear comment is clearly bad in my opinion, regardless of if it was sarcasm.

Ironically, I'm of German descent, but whichever heritage someone is in my opinion would be the same.

[-] goat@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago

Good, I'm glad you can agree it's bad. You have to be very vigilant against the alt-right playbook—no defending sarcasm or if it's a joke.

[-] bungalowtill@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 month ago

when you are with your peer group and use sarcasm, you probably also don’t label it as such.

[-] Zomg@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

That's a fair point, id just consider that as an inside joke I guess.

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social -4 points 1 month ago

Right, but there's enough social context going on to generally assume that stans for the philosophy of Karl Marx and Friedrich Engles probably don't actually consider Germans a form of untermensch.

[-] fuckingkangaroos@lemm.ee 9 points 1 month ago

Most of them aren't actual Marxists, that's a facade for them to spread disinformation and divisive content.

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