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Tim Walz Defends Dick Cheney’s Campaign Support on ‘The Daily Show’
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Rational people understand it’s an emergency, and we need to have the biggest tent with the most people in it.
Who is the Dick Cheney/Liz Cheney constituency though? Whose opinion will be swayed by the former VP of a deeply unpopular administration at its end? Or by a former Congresswoman with a infamous last name?
This is a nice-to-have for Democrats, but is it actually moving the needle with voters? Is it actually changing minds or increasing turnout? Harris and her advisors certainly think so, she's out there campaigning with Cheney actively, but where is the movement in the numbers, cause I'm not seeing it.
Just not big enough for the left, naturally.
The "center" has run to and supported her so they're getting what they want. If the left wants anything you have to get in the tent first. There's a reason Bernie ran in the Democratic primary. Keep our democracy and work on shifting left via primaries and ballot measures. Otherwise we've got an R dictatorship and I'm not rich enough or white enough to deal with that.
We're already in the tent. In the back. In the "I assume they will vote D" seats.
And we will this time. (At least, I will.) While D cheerfully becomes the new conservative party and R becomes/remains the batshit crazy party.
Somehow the Republicans inviting Trump and the racists to take over had the net effect of pulling D to the right.
The people who no longer have a home are progressives. R made their own fucking bed, but the Democrat leadership kept the light on for them, so they will be OK.
Most of .ml and hexbear and other "tankies" are vocally saying they're going to vote someone else like de la cruz or west (or not at all). All of those same people can't respond to the fact that if they want third party viability then need to 1)make sure voting remains a thing (aka vote harris this election)and 2) work to get something other than ftfp voting and work hard to get progressives in the primary3) don't expect quick change because the system is set up to maintain a status quo which means a lot of willpower is needed for changes.
is obvious I think. Palestinian genocide should not be supported by our country but Harris has at least talked willingness to pull netanyahu back somewhat. Rs want to let netanyahu be further unhinged in his genocide, let putin commit a Ukrainian genocide, then start a new one at home starting with the Trans and quickly spreading to other lgbtq, Latinos and whatever the outgroup of the hour is.
basically the main driver behind this two party divide. RCV is why Alaska, home of Sarah Palin has a democratic house representative. I know people talk about other systems too, what I know is just about anything is better than the FTFP we currently have.
Before '08 politicians hadn't seriously considered M4A. Now what we got, the ACA/Obamacare hasn't been good but is a hell of a lot better than what we had before.
Better than what we had is basically the aim. Rs and billionaires have been playing that game for themselves since before Reagan and are why we're in a sea of shit. We're not going to magically fly out of the shit into a socialist utopia, it is a long slog back to a shore of reason then trekking to somewhere better. All I'm saying is voting can't be the lone basis of fixing our system but is a bare minimum to keep a system in place. A revolution is only nice on paper and it's just as likely the "bad guys" win.
Which is why we're gonna completely ignore the sizeable uncommitted movement and probably the entire state of Michigan.
In other words: Yes, Stalin is a murderous dickbag who won't let us use his territory to bomb Japan and steals every piece of technology we send him but we need him to beat Hitler.
forging that relationship at the time was helpful and a clear benefit and, unlike then, the poll numbers are making it clear that campaigning with support from war criminals is not helpful.
Exactly. As long as they dump them as soon as they win. The thought of having a Cheney in the Harris cabinet is unacceptable.
If she wins, there will suddenly be a ton of "former" MAGA that are suddenly "center-right" and ready to cooperate.
Remember when Obama tried that?
They won't. We're watching D jump right in response to the Republican own-goal of the past few years.
somehow
that's who kamala was alluding to when she said she could have republicans in her administration.
I'm aware
Yea I feel the same way. People not taking it seriously enough think they have the power to get something by not voting for Harris or Trump beyond an ego boost. So many folks today think they have morals and not voting because they think Dick Cheney is somehow going to suffer for a Trump win is beyond me. For example, Hasan. He is safe in his state of California because HE KNOWS that CA is FPTP and Harris will win CA so he writes in Bernie because his vote has no power. But trying to pretend its a moral stance is a joke and cowardice.