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submitted 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) by VinesNFluff@pawb.social to c/asklemmy@lemmy.world

I don't mean BETTER. That's a different conversation. I mean cooler.

An old CRT display was literally a small scale particle accelerator, firing angry electron beams at light speed towards the viewers, bent by an electromagnet that alternates at an ultra high frequency, stopped by a rounded rectangle of glowing phosphors.

If a CRT goes bad it can actually make people sick.

That's just. Conceptually a lot COOLER than a modern LED panel, which really is just a bajillion very tiny lightbulbs.

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[-] Dearth@lemmy.world 35 points 1 day ago

The original tv remote didn't use batteries. It used sound. Giant clunky devices with large tactile buttons. Never runs out of batteries and still works if your kid tries to block the screen to keep you from turning it off

[-] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 16 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

Those remotes used little spring-loaded mechanical chimes that emitted ultrasonic notes. As a kid I discovered my parents' big Magnavox console stereo would change channels if I clinked a handful of coins.

[-] Regrettable_incident@lemmy.world 4 points 20 hours ago

Our first TV remote was on a cable! This would have been in the early 80s I think.

[-] Hugin@lemmy.world 6 points 23 hours ago

Even the replacement and most modern remotes (with an LED at the tip that you have to point at the device) use pretty cool tech.

Usually to send data you want a data channel and a clock channel. When the clock changes say from high to low you read the next bit in the data channel. With one LED to send info you need to combine them.

For transmission that's easy. You make the low to high change at a fixed frequency. For the high to low change if it's a zero you make the high to low change 1/3 the way through the cycle. For a 1 you make the change 2/3 the way through the cycle.

On the receiver you you sync up a signal at the same frequency rising with the start of the transmission at a 1/2 on 1/2 off. You look at the data when the reference falls 1/2 the way through the cycle.

If a zero was sent the line had fallen at the 1/3 and it is a zero. If a one was sent the line doesn't drop until 2/3 and it's a one.

The trick is how do you get a signal at the same frequency and in synch. You compare the transmission frequency revived to the frequency of a voltage controlled oscillator. If it's slower you up the voltage and increase the frequency if it's faster you lower the voltage and lower the frequency.

You similarly use a phase detector to determine if they are in phase slightly boosting the frequency until they are in sync.

This system is called a phased lock loop (pll). All this so you don't have to getup to change the channel. The same sort of system is used for reading data from the magnetic disk on a hard drive.

[-] don@lemm.ee 1 points 17 hours ago

lmao I vaguely remember these, wow that’s nostalgia

[-] toynbee@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

How did it generate that sound without batteries? Was it literally the audio from the clicking of the buttons? Genuine questions.

edit: Thanks for the several answers. They all seem prone to interference, but it is nice that they worked without power.

[-] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 7 points 22 hours ago

The button pressed a spring-loaded thing that struck a piece of metal, almost like a wind chime, emitting an ultrasonic note. I discovered by accident that I could make my parents' stereo change channels by clinking coins together.

[-] this_1_is_mine@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Tuning forks!!! The Zenith clicker The buttons would work strikers that would hit tuned rods. A different one doing a different function.

[-] AA5B@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago

Ah, so more like the bell on a bicycle

[-] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago

Except there's another bell that vibrates in response to trigger a switch!

It's like auditory entanglement.

[-] AA5B@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Spooky action across the room!

[-] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 2 points 22 hours ago

Zenith Space Command remote.

[-] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

Buttons and springs would make it click loudly at a predicable frequency.

It's why remotes are often referred to as "clickers".

[-] Randelung@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago

It's not a circle, it's a spiral!

[-] desktop_user@lemmy.blahaj.zone -1 points 1 day ago

sounds loud and annoying

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