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Looks like the campaign has a whole bunch of things besides "orange man bad". All there on the official page easy to find.
It seems like someone saying the entire campaign is "orange man bad" hasn't bothered to listen to anything being said and is just focusing on the most salient point in a bad faith effort to discredit them.
https://dessalines.github.io/essays/socialism_faq#kamala-harris
"Be more than just orange man bad"
Here's a list
"Kamala bad"
I thought we were asking for more than just "opposition bad"?
But if we're going the "opposition bad" route find me a single item in that list that Trump wouldn't make worse.
You know, the entire topic of the thread: even if Kamala isn't good, Trump is significantly worse in every way, and one of them will be president.
Wow, it's almost as if someone being bad can be for multiple reasons!
Yeah, for instance: funding a genocide, xenophobic immigration policy, building the wall, dropping the ball on covid right before delta/omicron, a lack of healthcare reform, the inability to protect abortion rights, being a cop, denigrating anti-genocide protestors, racially profiling Muslims at your events
How about: Popularizing the idea of the wall in the first place, going mask-off calling illegal immigrants "murderers and rapists", the "Muslim Ban" on air travel, moving the US embassy to Jerusalem, employing white nationalists as staffers, packing the supreme court with extreme conservative justices, giving permanent tax cuts to the rich, expanding the presence of immigrant concentration camps, cozying up to foreign dictators, stating he wanted generals like Adolf Hitler's behind closed doors when his own generals refused to nuke North Korea and blame it on someone else, egging on a far-right insurrection attempt, directly pursuing strikes and assassination attempts against middle-Eastern military generals and diplomats, ending the Iran nuclear deal, calling climate change a Chinese hoax, calling Covid the "China virus", spreading vaccine disinformation until one was developed before the end of his term, trying to start a trade war with China, discrediting his chief medical advisor on factual statements about Covid, saying Black Lives Matter protestors were "burning down cities", wanting to designate Antifa as a terrorist organization, declaring "far left radical lunatics" part of his "enemy from within", being an avowed friend of Epstein, sexually assaulting over a dozen women and underage girls, being a generally abusive sleazebag, also funding a genocide (Israel has always been ethnically displacing Palestinians), also building the wall, also not implementing healthcare reform (and being against what we have), also not protecting abortion rights (+ setting up the conditions that led to their erosion; see supreme court point above), and also denigrating anti-genocide protestors (but not as harshly since he wasn't the one in charge when it happened).
I guess he's not a cop though, so there's that.
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The promise is that Harris is essentially a continuation of Biden so with that in mind comparing to your list above:
Similarities ✓ the "Muslim Ban" on air travel, employing white nationalists as staffers, packing the supreme court with extreme conservative justices, giving permanent tax cuts to the rich, expanding the presence of immigrant concentration camps, cozying up to foreign dictators, directly pursuing strikes and assassination attempts against middle-Eastern military generals and diplomats, trying to start a trade war with China, discrediting his chief medical advisor on factual statements about Covid, saying Black Lives Matter protestors were "burning down cities", wanting to designate Antifa as a terrorist organization, declaring "far left radical lunatics" part of his "enemy from within", sexually assaulting over a dozen women and underage girls, being a generally abusive sleazebag, also funding a genocide (Israel has always been ethnically displacing Palestinians), also building the wall, also not implementing healthcare reform (and being against what we have), also not protecting abortion rights, and also denigrating anti-genocide protestors (but not as harshly since he wasn't the one in charge when it happened)
Differences: X Popularizing the idea of the wall in the first place, calling illegal immigrants "murderers and rapists", moving the US embassy to Jerusalem, being an avowed friend of Epstein, stating he wanted generals like Adolf Hitler's behind closed doors when his own generals refused to nuke North Korea and blame it on someone else, egging on a far-right insurrection attempt, calling climate change a Chinese hoax, calling Covid the "China virus"
They are faaaarrrr more similar than they are different as honestly some of the "differences" I've noted are just because the exact quotes aren't the same, even if some similiarly spirit quotes have been said.
"I was robbed"
"I blame you more than the thief because you should have protected your stuff better!"
It's not the democratic politicians who were robbed. It's the democratic politicians who were complicit in us getting robbed of our rights.
It's the Republican politicians that actually robbed you of those rights, and you are actively helping them get more power to do it again. Make it make sense.
So if one person is holding you at gunpoint while another rummages through your pockets, you should definitely only be mad at the one going through your pockets right?
If one person is standing by not doing anything while another person steals my stuff, I'm definitely going to be more mad at the person who actually stole my stuff.
If I am forced to leave one of them alone with my stuff I will make sure it's not the stole from me.
Holding a gun to your head is "not doing anything"?
Are Democrats holding a gun to your head? Or are they saying "if you leave him alone with your stuff he's going to steal it, you better leave me alone with your stuff as I won't steal it."
"Could you lock up my stuff so he doesn't steal it?"
"No, I'm just not going to touch your stuff."
I'm still angrier at the person who is actively trying to steal my stuff.
Yes. They are called police, the gun isn't figurative.
But if you want to change metaphors:
They then invite the other guy over and help them steal it, but blame it on the other guy and say "we tried to stop it". Who would you be more angry with?
How exactly did they "invite the other guy over and help him steal it"?
Supreme Court justices are nominated by the president and then the house and Senate approve or deny the nomination. The current justices were nominated by Democrat majorities.
Kamala Harris is actively campaigning with Dick Cheney.
Electoral districts are drawn via bipartisan committee.
This is ultimately the problem with metaphors... What specifically are you looking for to confirm or deny?
It's the Senate that approves nominations to the supreme Court.
Of the Supreme Court Justices that voted to overturn Roe v Wade:
Amy Coney Barrett was approved by a Republican controlled Senate.
Samuel A. Alito was approved in 2006 by a Republican controlled Senate.
Brett Kavanaugh was approved in 2018 by a Republican controlled Senate.
Neil M. Gorsuch was approved in 2017 by a Republican controlled Senate.
Clarence Thomas was approved in 1991 by a Democratic controlled Senate.
4 out of 5 of the Supreme Court justices that voted to overturn Roe v Wade were approved by Republican majorities. Two of which happened after the Republicans used their majority to block Obama from being able to nominate anyone to the Supreme Court. The one approved by Democrats happened 33 years ago when American Politics were significantly less partisan.
This is why I pushed you to stop speaking in metaphor and say something factual, because once you did you proved you were not speaking about actual reality.
Republicans abuse power to push through their agenda, and your response to that is to allow Republicans to continue to have enough power to continue to abuse the system while you blame Democrats for not stopping them. Your arguments make no sense in reality so you have to hide them behind metaphor.
"Why didn't Democrats stop them"? Because they did not have the seats to do so. Refusing to give them seats won't allow them to stop Republicans from overturning the next civil right while they continue to turn back the clock on progress.
This is really clever if you're okay with convincing yourself that you know exactly and completely what other people believe.. Otherwise it's a reductionist hot take filled with logical fallacy.